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[quote user="243129"]You and Amtrak cite "decreasing numbers of human errors"? Where?[/quote] I don't know what Amtrak did, I was assuming a possible scenario. Look onto the tables Charlie Hebdo posted and you see that human error collisions decreased significantly from the 1990s. The accidents you cite are terrible and shouldn't have happened but they don't change the statistics. Everyone has his own way interpreting statistic. You see the cited accidents as warning. Amtrak might have seen the development over the last years and thought that their hiring and training is good enough to reduce human erroraccidents. The pure number of your cited accidents doesn't help if the accidents don't fit regarding engineer training: The accident at Chester was not caused by the engineer. Two others in 2011 were not deemed important enough for NTSB to investigate. At least I found no accident report. [quote user="243129"]All of the above are attributed to human error yet Amtrak still made no changes to it’s vetting and training procedures. And you believe "management cares"? GMAFB[/quote] As I said before, a management can care and get to different conclusion than someone "from the trenches". That doesn't say anything if correct or not. But your perspective is not necessarily the only correct, especially in light of thr accident statistic. [quote user="243129"]Where did you get your information that I was rude to them?[/quote] Perhaps I was not clear enough that I meant your letters. They were rude and in part insulting. How the meeting went I don't know. [quote user="243129"]So Herr Landwehr before you launch in to criticizing others get your facts straight.[/quote] We all make mistakes here Though I don't see were I was wrong. On the other hand you should be more careful choosing the accidents you cite to give your accusations more weight. Chester is the second one after train #91 that doesn't fit your agenda. Regards, Volker
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