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[quote user="243129"]Since you have posted so many links I assumed that you had formed an opinion.[/quote] Sure I have an opinion. I thought posting links to some NTSB Factual Reports might benefit this discussion. Here is another link: An article about the second day of the NTSB hearing which discussed passenger rail safety not details of the accidents: <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/amtrak-says-new-focus-on-safety-will-make-rail-travel-safer-for-all/2018/07/11/5fd493ec-8531-11e8-8f6c-46cb43e3f306_story.html?utm_term=.854b3e3eca31">https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/amtrak-says-new-focus-on-safety-will-make-rail-travel-safer-for-all/2018/07/11/5fd493ec-8531-11e8-8f6c-46cb43e3f306_story.html?utm_term=.854b3e3eca31</a> After looking in some Factual Reports I find the second sentence disturbing: The company said it has long had programs that encourage employees to report safety issues, had rules designed to protect workers and collected data to pinpoint weaknesses in its systems. But officials acknowledged there is room for improvement. If I understand the rest of the article correctly a safety management system is seen as a way to safety improvements. It is only the basis. When my former employer, Germany's largest construction company at that time, got quality management system certified we realized that it didn't improve the quality but only document what we did, good or bad. Improving quality or here safety needs a next step. Draw conclusions from the findings in the quality/safety management system and implement them. Documentation for the management system costs money as well as developing suggestions for improvement from it and implementing them. Is Amtrak willing to do this? Regards, Volker
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