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[quote user="Euclid"]The fact that he had not made enough student trips to familiarize himself with the route is completely beside the point.[/quote] Remember? You asked: The mystery is how someone with that much responsibility could just suddenly get lost, and more importantly, not know he was lost. I gave a possible answer. When it is beside the point why ask? [quote user="Euclid"]The point is that he knew he was lost and decided to take a chance and run blind at full speed. [/quote] Perhaps you should re-read the NTSB press release. No word that the engineer was lost especially not by him. The engineer said that he recalls the speed at MP15.5 with 79 mph, he saw MP16 and 17 but didn't recall seeing MP18 or the 30 mph advance speed sign. He saw the wayside signal at MP19.8 but mistook for it for one further north. As soon as he saw the 30 mph sign he applied the brakes. [url]https://ntsb.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/mr20180125.aspx[/url] My conclusion: He was lost and found back into reality at the 30 mph sign at the curve. Nowhere in rules is a timeframe given within which you have to discover your are lost. He was lost and realized where he really was directly at the curve too late to do what demand. Regards, Volker
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