From Sacremento - Klamath Falls bus bridge due to fire. 6/29 - 7/01. Cannot get Amtrak delay tweet to link.. The UP Dry Canyon bridge which is a steel bridge with timber cross ties burned . At present UP does not know exent of damage to steel frame.
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If this is a major problem UP might need to use the inside gateway again. It would seem that route neeeds upgrading as an alternate route. There has been several closures of the UP (SP) route in past years.
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The track dip in the above picture may mean something??
Streak,
The 'Inside Gateway' is mostly BNSF, with some UP trackage rights. Are you proposing that BNSF should spend its money just in case UP has a problem?
I am 99.99% confident each has detour rights on the other. The instant and immediate problem with detours of this length is lack of crews.
Mac
Ironic that the fire that damaged the bridge occurs during a prolonged severe hot spell, near Hotlum...
I don't think this was a 'bridge fire' as much as a wildfire around the bridge that ignited the ties. That I suspect is why there is extended concern about the steel in most of the structure. It will be interesting to see how they proceed in this weather if functional replacement is necessary.
For me, your linked picture requires sign-in. Is there a source that doesn't?
OH-OH This does not look good. Do we suspect that every bridge member is going to need some kind of testing ?,
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Who will take first train across or will they use remote (DPU) unit(s) to cross ?
This line has had several long disruptions. It may be that the federal Government may supply funds to upgrade the inside gateway ? Please correct any of these recollections.
1. understand will not take double stacks ?
2. No signaling ?
3. Short sidings
4. what kind of dispatching ? Train order ?
5. How many qualified UP crews ?
6. How long to qualify enough UP crews to use route ?
Found pictures of fire damage with some of UP RR.
Lava Fire photos: see the desolation left behind (mtshastanews.com)
Scroll down to the bottom of the Mt Shasta link for a picture of the end of the bridge.
Yes, that's likely to involve testing all the bridge members. And could be interesting to watch if a substantial number of them need replacing -- as may be likely.
On the other hand, if the fire was fast-moving the ignition of the bridge ties may not reflect damage to the actual bridge steel.
Starlight now showing cancelled thru July 14th.
Select your trip from Emeryville, CA to Seattle, WA
Overmod =sorry about the Kalmbach IT system over writing your post. Will not let me edit or delete. IT please fix these problems.
Note cancellation is between Sacremento and Klamath Falls right now but in future who knows ?
I'm not sure what it is about Amtrak's formatting that drives Kalmbach wild. It renders exactly the same goofy way on a phone that it does with desktop browsers, so it's a fundamental code error... but perhaps Amtrak using something nonstandard.
Starlight passengers can ride Cascades Seattle = Eugene. No bus bridge to SAC, Here is Amtrak service announcement thru July 14th.
Friday, July 2, 2021 1:30 PM EDT
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Have you seen the pics of the damage? Nothing is going to be running Black Butte to Klamath Falls in ten days.
Rumor: UP isn't going to fix the bridge -- they're replacing it.
timz Have you seen the pics of the damage? Nothing is going to be running Black Butte to Klamath Falls in ten days. Rumor: UP isn't going to fix the bridge -- they're replacing it.
blue streak 1 timz Have you seen the pics of the damage? Nothing is going to be running Black Butte to Klamath Falls in ten days. Rumor: UP isn't going to fix the bridge -- they're replacing it. Wonder if the present cooper rating is not what UP desires ? If so they probably already had plans of what was needed. The biggest problem is if UP is replacing the bridge is getting the proper steel for the rebuilding ? Foundations probably woulde not be a problem New foundations can be installed while waiting for the steel? Wonder if UP would not allow 4014 across the bridge ?
They MAY be replacing it with a existing bridge on a out of service or abondoned trackage that UP still owns. Piers can be adapted to the requirements of a 'transferred' bridge.
UP has moved bridges to repair incidents in the past.
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Latest up date from Amtrak
SERVICE ALERT: Coast Starlight Train 14 departing Los Angeles (LAX) on 7/15- 9/7 will operate as a bus between Sacramento (SAC) & Klamath Falls (KFS) due to a track closure. All intermediate stops will be made. For reservation assistance please call or text 1-800-USA-RAIL.
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