More grant money for New Orleans to Mobile, Alabama, Amtrak route

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More grant money for New Orleans to Mobile, Alabama, Amtrak route
Posted by York1 on Sunday, May 3, 2020 8:33 PM

"More money has been awarded to restoring a passenger rail service between New Orleans and Mobile, Mississippi’s U.S. congressmen announced Friday."

 

https://www.nola.com/news/article_8d5b97ba-8d73-11ea-8e70-5fdcc71b2470.html

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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, May 3, 2020 8:40 PM

Hey that's some great news. Waddya know a flicker of light in the eye of the storm.  Hope to heck it all pans out. 

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Posted by York1 on Sunday, May 3, 2020 8:48 PM

I don't hold out too much hope.  It's been talked about since 2005 after a hurricane stopped service.

Alabama has not pledged any money for it.

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Posted by NKP guy on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 7:41 AM

   Another example of Blue states subsidizing Red states?

   Does Mississippi itself ever pay for anything?

   That being said, I'm in favor of more Amtrak...everywhere.

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 8:17 AM

NKP guy
Another example of Blue states subsidizing Red states?

Not all blue states.  Only ten states pay more to the national government than what they get back.  My state is a very red one, and we help subsidize the other 40.  There are several other red states in that group of ten.

Virginia is a blue state, and they receive more money per capita that any other state.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 8:59 AM

I think New Orleans to Mobile Corridor service would have been a better use of the money myself.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 9:01 AM

OK, my bad I thought this was resurrection of the Eastern Part of the Sunset limited.   So once they have this corridor built up they should work on Altanta to Macon - GA

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Posted by zugmann on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 4:16 PM

York1
Not all blue states.  Only ten states pay more to the national government than what they get back.  My state is a very red one, and we help subsidize the other 40.  There are several other red states in that group of ten.

Every list lists different states. 

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 4:52 PM

Why are we blithering about red vs. blue states when only three states are involved in this prospective service?

And I'm presuming the new service is either intended to be an ultimate addition (at more useful arrival and departure times) or step toward restoration of service across to Jacksonville as in the pre-Katrina days.  You will likely not see full operation across the Panhandle east of Mobile without sleeper service of some kind; Mobile is reachable by a day train, and New Orleans may see benefit in 'required' layovers between existing trains from the north and west that don't arrive or leave 'timely' as a connection to a full run to/from Mobile in daylight.

In my opinion Ivey is waiting -- as I think she should! -- to see if the subsidized period of operation 'ramps up' enough ridership between locations to the West and Mobile to justify state continuance of 'that part' of the service.  It will be interesting to see how Mobile -- which is very proud of its rail facilities -- contributes to the success of the route or the amenities that add to the 'experience' of riding it.

I suggest we adapt this to be part of the advertising for the new train:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxoO5yrabfc

(Probably better than the Florida connecting train, which might use this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB61fgsCZGU

"How do you make a Jacksonville plan ... ride the Pan-handlers...")

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Posted by Gramp on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 5:31 PM

At least it's a route that makes sense. 150 miles, direct route, intermediate towns, good endpoints, twice a day round trips. Would be something good to build from. 

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 5:46 PM

I would guess that Mississippi would push the hardest for this train.  It would stop at the major casino sites along the Gulf Coast.

Louisiana would benefit because of the tourism potential of New Orleans, although I'm not sure if there is that much demand for a train for that.  It's only a 2½ hour drive by car from Mobile to New Orleans.

I would guess Alabama would benefit the least from this proposed train.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Friday, May 8, 2020 11:39 AM

charlie hebdo

Yes so this is per the regular Federal year to year budget.    Which would be a more fair analysis if it included state borrowing,  state indebtedness, bail outs via Federally led Debt restructurings at the state level, supplimental grants and subsidies done off budget.     Put that list together and it will be a LOT more accurate.

If I live in a state that contributes more to the Feds but is in hoc with debt (can't meet it's state budget without significant borrowing).    Whom am I kidding here?

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Posted by CMStPnP on Friday, May 8, 2020 11:41 AM

charlie hebdo

Yes so this is per the regular Federal year to year budget.    Which would be a more fair analysis if it included state borrowing,  state indebtedness, bail outs via Federally led Debt restructurings at the state level, supplimental grants and subsidies done off budget.     Put that list together and it will be a LOT more accurate.

If I live in a state that contributes more to the Feds but is in hoc with debt (can't meet it's state budget without significant borrowing or indebtedness).    Whom am I kidding here?

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