Overmod charlie hebdo A perusal of the pertinent posts answered Ulrich's question about access to Manhattan and corrected Dave's error about Chicago. Yes, but I can find no pertinent post where the OP acknowledges we answered what he asked, to his satisfaction.
charlie hebdo A perusal of the pertinent posts answered Ulrich's question about access to Manhattan and corrected Dave's error about Chicago.
Yes, but I can find no pertinent post where the OP acknowledges we answered what he asked, to his satisfaction.
Different folks have differing standards. It was self-evident so maybe he saw no reason.
Maybe it's the Saturday morning fog, but I didn't grasp the riposte!
charlie hebdoMaybe it's the Saturday morning fog, but I didn't grasp the riposte!
That's because it's not a riposte. I was just making sure the OP had the opportunity to say if he'd gotten the answer he wanted ... New York style!
(Oh, wait, did you mean the Dick Morris-flavored insult? That warn't serious.)
One important correction: The Baltimore and Ohio Tran-Connection buses did not use the Holland or Lincoln Tunnels. They used the Central of New Jersey Railraod ferryboats. Rode it in 1945. Both ways on a school trip to Washington, leaving from the Columbus Circle B&O station and returning there.
The Susquahanna Railroad terminated its steam passenger trains and Patterson downtown diesel railcars, perdicessors of the RDCs built around 1939. at the Erie Jersey City (Pamona) Station. But they also had a bus connection station and did run connectng buses through (I believe) the Holland Tunnel. (May have beeen the Lincioln.)
One important correction: The Baltimore and Ohio Tran-Connection buses did not use the Holland or Lincoln Tunnels. They used the Central of New Jersey Railroad ferryboats. Rode it in 1945. Both ways on a school trip to Washington, leaving from the Columbus Circle B&O station and returning there.
Miningman Posted by daveklepper on Saturday, October 19, 2019 12:54 PM One important correction: The Baltimore and Ohio Tran-Connection buses did not use the Holland or Lincoln Tunnels. They used the Central of New Jersey Railroad ferryboats. Rode it in 1945. Both ways on a school trip to Washington, leaving from the Columbus Circle B&O station and returning there. https://books.google.com/books?id=WaDY5i7D-3gC&pg=PA57&dq=%22The+B%26O+buses+at+times%22&hl=en&ppis=_c&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjekY3WhKnlAhUimeAKHTSwAYUQ6AEwAHoECAAQAg#v=onepage&q=%22The%20B%26O%20buses%20at%20times%22&f=false
http://cs.trains.com/ctr/f/3/t/230410.aspx
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
I found a brief video of some bus action at the Jersey Central terminal, including the bus turntable. Here you go...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rj1VTVkfcw
BaltACDOne important correction: The Baltimore and Ohio Tran-Connection buses did not use the Holland or Lincoln Tunnels. They used the Central of New Jersey Railroad ferryboats.
I keep learning this. And then I keep forgetting.
I do have to wonder, though, whether the ferry access -- if the boats could go as quick as the connection time of the Bullet indicated -- was substantially faster than going over to either of the tunnels, through it, and then back up to the 'circuit' and the Chanin Building ... especially at rush-hour traffic time.
MiningmanBus turntable in left background between trackage
I had seen the ads for the bus transfer showing the buses adjacent to the trains but I never knew they were on a narrow platform with a turntable to turn them around. Thanks to you, I learned something new. When did the ferries stop running? I thought the buses used the tunnels after the ferries stopped.
Shooting my own theory that at least some buses used the tunnels even further in the foot: the CNJ ferries, largely patronized by the Jersey Central commuter trains, kept running years after the B&O took off all passenger service, and continued carrying vehicles during part if not all of the remaining years.
Here is some original-source proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6tRz9cDQG0
Note the vehicles visible on the deck - I'd love to get that convertible top down on the other side, go up to the West Side Highway southbound, and cruise around the tip of lower Manhattan at speed in the air ... it was, for a brief shining moment in my childhood, like flying.
I believe that the CNJ ferries were discontinued with the implementation of the Aldene Plan in 1967 or 1968, which also closed the Jersey City terminal. EL's ferries were discontinued at about the same time.
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