Amtrak Where Everything Old is NEW AGAIN

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Amtrak Where Everything Old is NEW AGAIN
Posted by samfp1943 on Monday, May 07, 2018 11:46 AM

Of late, we continue to read how the new C.E.O. Mr. Richard Anderson, has put forth a 'NEW" 5 Year PLan.  Predicting,AMTRAK will be 'Financially Sound by 2023'.

Of Course, the paying Public is going to HAVE TO Suffer 'the slings and arrows' of 'drastic' Service Reductions [drastic is my word].   This seems to be the way that the airline industry does such things....find the points where they can ignore the whimpering public...Chop everything that seems to be an "enhancement"... 

 At least for the present, they have not instituted, yet...the B.C.S.'s that someone undergoes, before reporting to their prison cell....Pack the public in, shoulder to shoulder, back to belly button, and a 'one cheek seat' to ride in, in 'steerage' class... Only giving glimpses of the super premium classes available for a ransom of the passenger's first born.                  Have them sit of hours in an unventilated 'aluminum tube' while the 'Traffic' which is so congested that the flight times cannot be met...Do not run the engines to provide power, because they have figured the aircraft's fuel load so closely; they would have no fuel to get to the destination...          Sell air travel as convenient, and safe, and luxurious..one bag of goobers per passenger, and restroom unavailable until it get airborn. One has to wonder, will they still carry the 'passengers' in the cabin? Unlike the WWII German parachute regiments  that rode out to battle, on the wings of their aircraft.

  THAT might be Anderson's NEXT ENHANCEMENT.....Ya gotta love it!  Mischief

Now, we have imported  one of those airline management types, who has transferred to "SAVE" AMTRAK! After having saved DELTA AIRLINES.Crying        

  The only thing they, AMTRAK has NOT announced is gondola cars for sleepers,    [ air conditioned!Huh? ].  Bang Head       Remember, Thomas Edison, got his first job as a 'news & candy butcher' on the Grand Trunk RR... That was Civil War era, and what they head for food service at the times.Dinner  Coming to AMTRAK?  Dinner

 

While on the topic of AMTRAK  Here is a clip from an article in the NYTimes:

And that clip is:''...The justification, according to Secretary Adams. for the elimination of so many trains is in the saving of money. The saving, over five years, would be $1.5 billion. At this time, the nation is spending $100 billion on the military budget a year, $30 billion annually on highways, or more, and $50 billion on foreign oil.

The truth is that all forms of transportation are subsidized. Buses and trucks, for example, run on a nationalized system of highways. To my knowledge, there is no private money in the Federal Interstate system.

I submit that we have to recognize that the railroad is another form of highway and has to be sustained as a highway. It is a national resource we cannot afford to lose. And we cannot afford to have the Amtrak system decimated. We must save the Montrealer!.."

 

 

 

Sam

 

 


 

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 12:05 AM

Agree

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Posted by GeoffS on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 8:55 AM

samfp1943 I had to chuckle to myself when I read about Edison being

a "news & candy butcher."  While riding #1 from New Orleans to San Antonio

April 16th the "hostess" in our coach came through about 11 AM

offering a lunch special for 10 bucks of a sandwich, chips, and water. 

About 4 PM  she offered a hot meal dinner special for $12.  Now the

meals where not served from a cart, but both were brought to our

 seats & both meals were very good!

Amtrak may have been doing this on #1 for awhile, I don't know, but it

was a nice alternative to going to the snack lounge or diner!

 

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Posted by ROBERT WILLISON on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 10:34 AM

GeoffS
a nice service, airline style.  Would they be nonunion or just a different job and pay scale?

samfp1943 I had to chuckle to myself when I read about Edison being

a "news & candy butcher."  While riding #1 from New Orleans to San Antonio

April 16th the "hostess" in our coach came through about 11 AM

offering a lunch special for 10 bucks of a sandwich, chips, and water. 

About 4 PM  she offered a hot meal dinner special for $12.  Now the

meals where not served from a cart, but both were brought to our

 seats & both meals were very good!

Amtrak may have been doing this on #1 for awhile, I don't know, but it

was a nice alternative to going to the snack lounge or diner!

 

 

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Posted by GeoffS on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 11:46 AM

AH HA!  Didn't give it a thought at the time - it's airline style!!

If it ads to the experience & the diner is still there then I guess

it's a good thing.  The jury I hope is a long way from a decision.

I would also hope she would have her current job & pay scale.

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Posted by Backshop on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 11:55 AM

The airlines give the public what they really want---CHEAP fares.  If you want more, you pay more.  People who reminisce about the way that air travel used to be don't really remember.  Back then, only the rich could afford it.  There were more plane crashes because the planes and ATC weren't as reliable.  People smoked onboard.  There weren't any personal entertainment systems.  What people want and what they'll pay for are two different things.

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Posted by runnerdude48 on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 12:32 PM

Backshop
The airlines give the public what they really want---CHEAP fares.  If you want more, you pay more. 

Backshop you are 100% right.  People only have themselves to blame.  What they have said they want is cheap fares, well they got'em.  But they can't have everything.  I like the current airline system.  If I want more leg room, a meal or premium snack I can.  I just have to pay more.  Those who want to save five bucks can do so.  They just have to change planes a couple of times.  I know people who will do just that.  I read somewhere not too long ago that if we went back to government regulation the average person would not be able to afford a coast to coast airline ticket but today everyone can fly.  You can get to LA from NYC is 5 hours rather than the 3 nights and 5 days on the LSL and SWC with alot less stress too.  And if you look around and are a bit flexible you can find a first class fare for less than a roomette fare.  Flying is the only way to go these days even if you aren't rich.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 5:55 PM

samfp1943
One has to wonder, will they still carry the 'passengers' in the cabin? Unlike the WWII German parachute regiments  that rode out to battle, on the wings of their aircraft.

Could you provide a link to a reputable source for that claim?  The Fallschirmjäger did not make many drops (Crete, Eben Emael the primary ones) in WWII often landing in gliders such as the Gotha or used as elite ground troops.  When they were dropped, it was from the doors, not the wings of the old workhorse JU 52s. There is a YouTube video and a photo of Russian paratroopers dropping off the wing of a Tupolev TB-3 (design influenced by Junkers) with corrugated wings in the 1930s. 


  

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Posted by Backshop on Wednesday, May 09, 2018 7:50 PM

Correct, it was the Russians.

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Posted by BLS53 on Thursday, May 10, 2018 6:20 AM

charlie hebdo

 

 
samfp1943
One has to wonder, will they still carry the 'passengers' in the cabin? Unlike the WWII German parachute regiments  that rode out to battle, on the wings of their aircraft.

 

Could you provide a link to a reputable source for that claim?  The Fallschirmjäger did not make many drops (Crete, Eben Emael the primary ones) in WWII often landing in gliders such as the Gotha or used as elite ground troops.  When they were dropped, it was from the doors, not the wings of the old workhorse JU 52s. There is a YouTube video and a photo of Russian paratroopers dropping off the wing of a Tupolev TB-3 (design influenced by Junkers) with corrugated wings in the 1930s. 


  

 

I think that had more to do with the design of the TB-3. Big wing, with the exit door in the middle of it. I don't think they stood on the wing the entire flight. 

 

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Thursday, May 10, 2018 10:40 AM

If you examine the top picture carefully, the Russian parachutists seem to be emerging from an opening in the top of the fuselage, then proceeding out onto the wing.  There is no evidence they rode the wings.  The previous poster was likely repeating some erroneous apocrypha.

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