Sewage Rains in Penn Station

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Sewage Rains in Penn Station
Posted by Victrola1 on Thursday, May 04, 2017 8:49 AM

Sewage Rains Down at Penn Station

Communters have often said Penn Station stinks. Not like this.

It just keeps hitting the fan at Penn Station. 

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Thursday, May 04, 2017 4:06 PM

Next, plague, and then locusts. 

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Posted by runnerdude48 on Friday, May 05, 2017 8:47 AM

And it will continue to hit the fan until Amtrak is replaced as operator.

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Posted by pajrr on Friday, May 05, 2017 9:46 AM

No matter who operates it, if there isn't money to spend to fix issues

, nothing will happen.

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Posted by RME on Friday, May 05, 2017 10:49 AM

And it will continue to hit the fan until Amtrak is replaced as operator.

I think we lost some of the posts to this thread through modac; I think I know why (someone was quoted in a way that made him appear to be a forum member) but truncating it leaves this post apparently uncontradicted in a way that some of the removed answers had dealt with.

Amtrak only technically 'owns' the track and structures of the ex-PC "corridor" and I think it remains an open issue whether they receive an adequate share of the cost of maintaining the over-100-year-old infrastructure from the transit agencies that now impose most of the 'overload' on the physical plant there.

Personally, I think ownership from, say, Newark out to New Rochelle ought to be given to NJ Transit, MetroNorth, et al., and Amtrak charged a nominal rental for its use of that part of the facilities.  Among many things, I think this would more or less quickly have runnerdude48 crying to have Amtrak back as 'operator' -- not so much because people at those agencies are somehow incompetent, but that the agencies are predominantly political in their priorities and strategies.

This may be an important issue if Amtrak loses its LD funding, and continued 'cuts' in Amtrak overhead expenses seem like an expedient thing in reducing "Federal spending".  I have to admit I'd shuck the plant to NJ/NY in a heartbeat, start imposing Federal maintenance mandates on the state agencies, and start dangling that good old Gateway money with an appropriate 'stick' for starting in on accelerated repair and maintenance of the older plant.  Note how far I would actually get if I proposed this to anyone in the real world.

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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, May 05, 2017 11:09 AM

A. There have been occasions when I would receive a post in my e-mail--and not in the Kalmbach site. I wonder how much I am missingnow since I receive no posts in my email.

B. Perhaps the primary users of Penn Satiotn really should have the major repsonsibility for the maintenance of the facility--and Amtrak be charged for its proportion of the use.



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