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<p>[quote user="blue streak 1"]</p> <p> </p> <blockquote> <div><img src="/TRCCS/Themes/trc/images/icon-quote.gif" /> <strong>Sam1:</strong></div> <div> <p> </p> <p>An Amtrak passenger receives an indirect subsidy from the federal government. The same is true for a commercial airline passenger and a commercial bus rider. But in the case of a vehicle, theoretically at least, the subsidy flows to the owner of the vehicle and not the passengers. Accordingly, for my analysis, </p> <div style="clear:both;"></div> </div> </blockquote> <p> </p> <p><strong>sam; at one time I might have agreeded but from the posts about the mega-bus accident it appears that the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">axel</span> loading on them is as great as a full tractor trailer. Since a bus does not pay the same user fee as a tractor trailer then the bus passengers are being subsidized  as well.</strong></p> <p><strong>although we do not know the reason the steer tire on the bus blew I have seen enough buses around here with blown steer and rear axel tires ( FORTUNATELY NO ACCIDENTS ) to believe that the tires are loaded to the max + .  we know trucks do not pay their portion of the damage they cause so maybe these same buses are not either ? </strong>[/quote]</p> <p>Actually, I should have said the owner of a personal vehicle.  In the case of a commercial bus, the benefit flows to the riders who buy the tickets. It follows the same path as those for rail passengers, commercial air passengers, etc. For the most part the subsidy reduces the price of the ticket. In the case of a personal vehicle, it reduces the cost of operating the vehicle for the owner but not the passengers in the vehicle.  </p>
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