This is a thread for all to post whenever Amtrak takes a 4 hour or more delay between 2 stations.
1. Palmetto took a 6 hour delay today from Savannah - Yemassee.
2. #14 Coast Starlight of Monday departure from Sacremento north cancelled somewhere north of Dunsmuir.
3. Seems that trains between Seattle and Portland have issues today.
EDIT: --- Found the following about a mudslide between Tacoma and Vancouver Wa.
http://www.columbian.com/news/2011/oct/04/mudslide-disrupts-nw-amtrak-service/
4. Cardinal--Todays Cardinal east bound took a major delay from STA - CVS (Charlottesville ). West bound left CVS about on time but has not made it any farther west.
6. Sunset -- Sunset that left LAX on 11/20 left El Paso today 15 min late and left Alpine 6:15 late and lost another :45mminutes to Sanderson
7. Cal Z / 23 #5 CHI --- Left Creston 1:15 late arrived Omaha 7:30 Late.
8. Silver Star / 23 #92 -- Left JAX 4 hours late.,
blue streak 1 7. Cal Z / 23 #5 CHI --- Left Creston 1:15 late arrived Omaha 7:30 Late. 8. Silver Star / 23 #92 -- Left JAX 4 hours late.,
item 7 Cal Z ended up 10:21 late at Glenwood springs (GSC ) and now at Winnwmucca ( WNN ) is 8:42 late.
9. Coast Starlight 14/24 Martinez ( MAR ) :44 late Davis ( DAV ) 4:11 late
As of 1930 all east coast trains today ( Friday ) are less than :45 late. This includes all SD out of Chicago. Most Western LD except all Cal Zs are mostly on time.
10. Silver Star 92/26 - !0 minutes late leaving West Palm Beach 6:40 late leaving Winter Haven.
blue streak 1 10. Silver Star 92/26 - !0 minutes late leaving West Palm Beach 6:40 late leaving Winter Haven.
Found out that this delay was probably caused by a CSX signal failure that caused train to operate under dispatchers orders at restricted speed at 15 MPH from WPB to Lakeland. The only signal failure I can think of was the CTC not able to send clearing orders to the signal system ?? I have often wondered why if signals do not receive any command orders in a certain time they would go to ABS ?? Mudchicken ??
Streak,
In typical CTC set up only the signals at control points, generally both ends of a controlled siding, are controlled by the dispatcher. Controlled signals are often called "Absolute Signals", meaning that you absolutely can not go past one displaying STOP without verbal permissiion of the dispatcher. The approach signals and intermediate signals are, in fact, block signals. Block signals displaying STOP may usually be passed after stopping for them. Movement beyond either type of stop signal must be at restricted speed, which is able to stop within half the range of vision, not exceeding 15 or 20 MPH, the not excceding varies among railroads.
If control of absolute signals is lost they go to their most restrictive indication, which is stop and in many installations that will set all the intermediate block signals to stop as well. Under those conditions a train being talked by all the absolute signals would probably be exceeding restricted speed to average 15 MPH over any distance.
My wife and I encountered this when we were on the Canadian on CPR in the Rocky Mountains years ago. We probably averaged 10 MPH and ended up hours late into Vancouver BC.
Mac
Cardinal 50/ 13 left Crawford 35 late and arrived IND 0625 and left IND 0635 6:45 late. Did it hit something on way to IND ??
A little off topic, but yesterday the Texas Eagle was 1:29 late in leaving Chicago and the SW Chief departed 2:44 late. Is it possible the current turmoil among the managers is already showing up in the Chicago yard?
PNWRMNM If control of absolute signals is lost they go to their most restrictive indication, which is stop and in many installations that will set all the intermediate block signals to stop as well. Under those conditions a train being talked by all the absolute signals would probably be exceeding restricted speed to average 15 MPH over any distance.
Going out on a limb, here, I think if the track between the interlockings is "current of traffic" then it's possible to get clear intermediate block signals, but if it's bi-directional, then the signals tumble down to stop in both directions between the interlockings until a route set and the home signal is cleared. I think CTC by definition includes bi-directional operation. (for sure on single track!).
-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/)
Empire Builder -- 8 / 22 hit predestrian between Everette - Leavenworth Wa at Monroe. Lost 4:04 hours waiting for replacement engineer.
http://today.seattletimes.com/2011/12/person-hit-by-amtrak-train-in-monroe/
Dakguy201 A little off topic, but yesterday the Texas Eagle was 1:29 late in leaving Chicago and the SW Chief departed 2:44 late. Is it possible the current turmoil among the managers is already showing up in the Chicago yard?
What does the turmoil among the managers in the Chicago refer to?
blue streak 1 Empire Builder -- 8 / 22 hit predestrian between Everette - Leavenworth Wa at Monroe. Lost 4:04 hours waiting for replacement engineer. http://today.seattletimes.com/2011/12/person-hit-by-amtrak-train-in-monroe/
Well it made up time and left West Glacier 2:31 late then left Browning 5:24 late. Train just can't win !!
The worst thing that has ever happened to railroad incident investigation by local authorities has been the popularity of the the CSI television franchise - every local yokel wants to be the next Gil Grissom and spend endless hours with the trespasser that committed suicide by train. Today's rule of thumb is if a trespasser is struck - 4 hours delay MINIMUM - if it is a fatality it will take longer until traffic can move again.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Feb 04, 2012. The California Zephyr that was due into Chicago this afternoon at 2:50PM is running about 14 hours late and will be in Chicago tomorrow. A snowstorm in Colorado and Nebraska is probably the reason it is so late.
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