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[quote user="henry6"] Sam you've got to try driving I80 across NJ, PA, OH, IN and IL or I81 thorugh NY, PA, MD, VA into the South to understand congestion, 18 wheelers at 80+ mph side by side alongside (or being pushed by?) a Toyota.  Or be in a fogbound row of 35mph traffic across the NJTurnpike scuking in those diesel fumes....find out what traffic is really like. As for the "compartmentlaizing" of Amtrak...it is historical, of course.  Routes and corridors compounded by union rules and long time railroad division points, rote operations, a fixed plant, and geography; and the individual cities and city pairs that devleoped in the 20th Century.  It is what Amtrak inherited or was given in hopes that it would all go away and big railorads would run big freight trains on thier private tracks while people would drive big cars on the Eisenhower Interstate.  It was a plan.  A plan that time changed, that time caught up with.  So here we are today. And also, through these arguements and comments I get confused about being an American, about my patriotism.  What am I missing?  Why isn't something like Amtrak good for America and me as much as the highway, waterway, and airway systems?  I get the feeling it is pro American to support the three latter forms of transportation yet it is anti American to support a national rail system.  The most confusion comes when I think of the United States being a powerful and successful world power which so many here wants to take apart state by state less one gets the better of the other.  Who is a real American? what is a real American?  Is it patriotic to say you can't have something when you need it because I get nothing at this time?  Let's stop playing the game and start building a United States instead a group of parochially defined settings. [/quote] Having lived in the Northeast for nearly half of my 70 years, I am familiar with traffic in the areas you mention.  In fact, I drove in or near Philadelphia twice last year.  The traffic is no more challenging than the traffic in and near the major cities of Texas.  The passenger rail service, however, is much better.  I took the train on several occasions from Harrisburg to Philadelphia.
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