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<P mce_keep="true">[quote user="henry6"] <P>[quote user="Sam1"] <P>I have presented more financial information from primary sources than any other person posting to this forum. And most of my arguments have been buttressed with detailed information drawn from Amtrak's financial records, as well as those of the FAA, USDOT, Homeland Security, etc. If you go back and read my posts, you would see that this is the case.<BR></P> <P>[/quote]</P> <P>All the more reason that you need not call people names. [/quote]</P> <P mce_keep="true">Here is the complete statement that I included in my post:</P> <P>"Most Americans are financially illiterate. They are clueless when it comes to understanding how transport in the U.S. or anywhere for that matter is funded. On several occasions, whilst riding Amtrak, I have chatted with my fellow passengers about Amtrak's finances. What I get, more often than not, is a deer in the headlights look. They don't have a clue how passenger rail in this country or any other country is funded. Most of them don't even understand the costs associated with driving their automobile."</P> <P>In part my comment was in response to this statement:</P> <P>"I don't think most folks expect train revenues to cover the operating costs, because there are other benefits. Ditto with transit systems. Another way of putting it is that the full cost to society of many endeavors is not found on a corporate balance sheet. There are many hidden subsidies. You disparage other countries' accounting standards, but the example of Arthur Anderson and Enron and others makes that sound like the kettle..."</P> <P>My comments did not refer to any person. They are generic and descriptive, but they don't fit the criteria for name calling. </P> <P>According to my Webster Dictionary, clueless means, amongst other things, bewildered, unaware, ignorant, foolish, i.e. clueless about what they want. If you think clueless is name calling, by all means pick out a word that is more palatable. But at the end of the day, I maintain that most people on the bus or train or plane tomorrow, not to mention their car, have little idea how they are financed. Also, please note that the references to illiterate and clueless were taken out of context. Putting comments in perspective means, amongst other things, reading the complete paragraph and taking the entire paragraph into consideration in crafting any rebuttal comments. </P> <P>I'll be out of pocket for the next week. I am taking the train from Austin to San Francisco and then back to Denver. </P>
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