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[quote user="Bob-Fryml"] [quote user="aricat"]  YES YES get a sleeper! The Empire Builder is Amtrak's best train by far. I had the most relaxing trip I have ever had in my Lifetime. The sleeper was worth every penny. Food was FABULOUS. Nothing better than having Prime Rib while going through Glacier National Park. We didn't arrrive in Seattle exhausted like you would in coach. Every railfan should do this at least once.[/quote]I've ridden the Empire Builder only eastbound and found the scenery through northern Montana to be exceedingly boring; but, I'll heartily agree with rest of the comments aricat wrote.Here's a sleeping tip that works both for train and airplane travel:  never open your eyes for any reason through the night!  You can listen to the rattles and squeaks of a moving passenger car throughout the night time hours.  You'll here some loud thuds as the wheels negotiate there way through every switch frog and then there's the locomotive horn sounding for every road crossing.  You may even pick up on some conversations, but whatever you do keep your eyes shut.  Do this and you'll likely be fine the next day!      [/quote]That is why I got out of riding Greyhound. That thing gets onto the interstate and drifts me off with the hum of the engine pulling strong. The moment the driver lets up the hammer and those RPMs drop Im awake and assessing the traffic ahead of the bus; especially if that rpm drop is combined with air application.I dont sleep when traveling much these days.If Im going to get a sleeper, it better be BIG for the hundreds of dollars they ask for the fare.Otherwise I find it cheaper to fly first class.
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