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Posted by charlie hebdo on Monday, March 8, 2021 10:02 AM

Sara T

charlie hebdo wrote >> I'm 188 CM but I don't find myself stooping on the DB trains. <<

 

That explains it. I am 1,96 (77"), Juni is a little over 2m. Ok, we are 'oversize' but still we also want to travel like passengers, not like parcels and if that's not possible in a railway car 4m high, then I don't know.

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Wow!  next time I'm in Germany, I will feel like a midget if I ride with you and Juni.!

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Monday, March 8, 2021 10:31 PM

Sara T

That explains it. I am 1,96 (77"), Juni is a little over 2m. Ok, we are 'oversize' but still we also want to travel like passengers, not like parcels and if that's not possible in a railway car 4m high, then I don't know.

I was picturing Juni to be closer to my height (1.90m when I was younger) when she was complaining about not be able to fit in airliner seats - now that I know she is my cousin Bob's height, there's no question about her trouble with airline seats.

FWIW, my wife is 1.83m and my daughter is 1.82m.

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Posted by Juniatha on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 9:19 PM

Erik_Mag

Gee - no!    I didn't ask for it!    At school it gave me problems, although it still wasn't that much then.  But it's alright now, I feel comfortable with what nature has given me.  I do good workouts (replaces: training) to keep in shape and my backbone strong - that's vital if you are 81".

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Thursday, March 11, 2021 1:23 AM

On the subject of leg room: Back in my Berkeley days, I noted that the seat pitch on the AC Transit buses was too short for my legs to fit without placing them at an angle and my wife complains about my "stubby" legs. BART was noticeably better (original Rohr cars). More recently I've had the experience of commuting on the Pacific Surfliner - best seats for legroom were on the Superliner car, could actually use my computer when person ahead reclined their seatback. The Amfleet cars were the worst, and the Surfliner cars were a bit better than the Amfleet, though some had seats where reclining was done by moving the seat cushion forward, thus preserving leg and lap room for the person behind.

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Posted by Sara T on Friday, March 12, 2021 7:18 AM

The American railroads still believe people are the size which they had during the Civil War?

Never mind! In Europe it seems railways still orient themselves by the door profile and 'stools' in ancient castles. Other ways I cannot understand their size of seats, back rests and leg space. Or, as Juni once said: they have a normed 150 lbs sack of potatoes and when this stays on the seat while on a test run everything is fine. This is especially true for the so called 'head rest' which in most cases is rather like a knock on the neck than any 'rest'. They must believe the head comes out at the front of the chest, not sits on top of the body.

(The Austrian RailJet is better in this category, however, to be sure I rather tested the first class: One friendly conductor forwarded me to it since the second class on this night train was completely occupied.)

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, March 12, 2021 10:20 AM

Since the overwhleming majority of my riding experience is in suburban service, I'll comment from that point of view.  Most seats are walkover seats for quick turnaround and only come up to just below shoulder height (I'm 5' 10").  There are no headrests.  Legroom is a little tight but not uncomfortable.  Window posts on gallery bi-levels do not obstruct the view on either level.  Stairs to the upper level are a bit narrow but no different than the Superliners.

The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
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Posted by charlie hebdo on Friday, March 12, 2021 11:49 AM

Have you ever ridden other bilevel equipment, such as in California, Ontario or Germany?

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, March 12, 2021 12:00 PM

I'm a lifelong Chicagoan so the answer is no.

The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
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Posted by Juniatha on Friday, March 12, 2021 7:28 PM

 CSSHEGEWISCH wrote   "There are no headrests. "

And that in 'god's own land' of safety and astronomical claims for damage ...?  What about a simple little (accidental) banging into the back of a standing train? or one rough engine coupling? Will ... naw, ok, I stop it here.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, March 12, 2021 7:44 PM

Juniatha

 CSSHEGEWISCH wrote   "There are no headrests. "

And that in 'god's own land' of safety and astronomical claims for damage ...?  What about a simple little (accidental) banging into the back of a standing train? or one rough engine coupling? Will ... naw, ok, I stop it here.

Angel

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Posted by SD70Dude on Friday, March 12, 2021 8:03 PM

18 mph love tap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GfiujrRItc

TSB report:

https://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-reports/rail/2016/r16e0051/r16e0051.html

Restricted speed was obviously not being complied with in this case.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, March 12, 2021 8:24 PM

SD70Dude
18 mph love tap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GfiujrRItc

TSB report:

https://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-reports/rail/2016/r16e0051/r16e0051.html

Restricted speed was obviously not being complied with in this case.

And thus we have 'Weed Weasels' doing Banner Tests.

I note from the TSB report that the lead train did not feel the impact.  Lot of slack in the train.

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Saturday, March 13, 2021 12:27 AM

charlie hebdo

Have you ever ridden other bilevel equipment, such as in California, Ontario or Germany?

In my bombastic opinion, the GO Transit design makes the most sense with by far the best path from lower to upper floors. The passageways on the lower floor of the Superliners remind me of a tour on a 688 class sub.

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