RME Paul of Covington Well, if they failed to post a sign saying, "WARNING! Do not climb tower and fall on high voltage lines!" maybe they are at fault. Don't laugh. One of the seminal cases in modern (perverted) product-liability precedents involves someone who picked up a push mower by the 'edges' and started to trim hedges with it; he lost a couple of fingers. He sued the manufacturer on the grounds that 'nothing in the manual said I couldn't trim hedges with it' and won. I know a pretty good cross-section of both undergrad and law professors who think this was a good decision 'on the merits' as it gets redress for people who are suffering, from big heartless companies and insurers that are 'all about money'...
Paul of Covington Well, if they failed to post a sign saying, "WARNING! Do not climb tower and fall on high voltage lines!" maybe they are at fault.
Don't laugh. One of the seminal cases in modern (perverted) product-liability precedents involves someone who picked up a push mower by the 'edges' and started to trim hedges with it; he lost a couple of fingers. He sued the manufacturer on the grounds that 'nothing in the manual said I couldn't trim hedges with it' and won.
I know a pretty good cross-section of both undergrad and law professors who think this was a good decision 'on the merits' as it gets redress for people who are suffering, from big heartless companies and insurers that are 'all about money'...
Whenever someone 'thinks' they have a idiot proof product - nature and lawyers develop even more idiotic idiots.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
FWIW Some years back NJTransit(IIRC) staged an accident with an empty bus. Made sure it had plenty of TV coverage. People went to jail and a few lawyers lost their licenses(to practice law).
The late, great Chicago newspaper columnist, Mike Royko wrote about two EL trains that collided with minor damage. People were climbing ladders to get into the trains so they could claim whiplash. As I recall most of them won. The ones that weren't seen by the authorities, that is.
As long as we're talking crazy law suits against transit authorities, in my opinion the hands down winner is this one from 1970:
https://www.thoughtco.com/cable-car-nymphomaniac-4038420
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/01/07/sf-woman-hits-her-head-in-muni-accident-and-becomes-nymphomanic-now-its-a-musical-the-cable-car/
1. She won her case!
2. The case was made into a musical in 2015!
Paul of CovingtonWell, if they failed to post a sign saying, "WARNING! Do not climb tower and fall on high voltage lines!" maybe they are at fault.
Here in Toronto we have people that climb construction cranes and then have to be rescued. Google "crane girl"
I'd like to know how he got there. If it's a steel latticework tower, there's usually a barbed wire "fence" around the base plus red warning signs.
Well, if they failed to post a sign saying, "WARNING! Do not climb tower and fall on high voltage lines!" maybe they are at fault.
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"A stranger's just a friend you ain't met yet." --- Dave Gardner
NOT only in Chicago! Take a look at this headline from today's New Haven Register:
Man claims Metro-North, UI* liable after he climbed tower, fell on high voltage lines in West Haven
One hardly knows what to say...
*United Illuminating
ALL:
Did the Chicago Police or CTA detrmine why this man opened the door on a moving train? I assume he had injuries.
Ed Burns
BroadwayLion Makes me wonder about train crews that have to bail out. The altitued is greater, and the ballast less accommodating. ROAR
Makes me wonder about train crews that have to bail out. The altitued is greater, and the ballast less accommodating.
ROAR
EHH is letting CSX crews mount and dismount moving equipment again - wondering if they will hire this guy as an instructor on what NOT to do?
NP Eddie Rob: Can you tell me what station the man opened the door at? I can't make out any signage. Ed Burns
Rob:
Can you tell me what station the man opened the door at? I can't make out any signage.
NP EddieMy question is: When someone opens a door on a CTA train, does the operator receive an indication on his instrument panel and does the train go into emergency?
NYCT trains cannot be opend doors by passenger.
CTA, Obviously.
NYCT trains will NOT go into emergency if door is opened. Motorman looses indication, and cannot take power, but can coast forever.
Cab has by-pass switch will allow him to take power in absence of closed doors. Switch is sealed with a seal (I do not know how the get the seal to sand still for so long). One of the things you must check before taking the train from the terminal. It seal is missing is your tail in the dock if something untoward happens.
T/O needs permission from control to break the seal (poor seal).
The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.
Here there be cats. LIONS with CAMERAS
Red Line, with center platform. Green Line has side platforms that would be on the other side of the train.
NP Eddie ALL: My question is: When someone opens a door on a CTA train, does the operator receive an indication on his instrument panel and does the train go into emergency? Anyone know why the man wanted off a train that did not stop at that station and how badly hurt was he? What line was the train on? Ed Burns
My question is: When someone opens a door on a CTA train, does the operator receive an indication on his instrument panel and does the train go into emergency?
Anyone know why the man wanted off a train that did not stop at that station and how badly hurt was he? What line was the train on?
This was, upon close inspection, at the 47th St station, on the Red Line in the middle of the Dan Ryan, or on the Green Line Elevated.
All CTA trains stop at every station on the line, unless, due to delays, are told to run express for a certain number of stations in order to get everything back on schedule.
If this is needed, the operator will inform riders on the train that the train will be running express from A to B, and has he pulls into the final station before he runs express, will also say it on the loadspeakers outside the train so that nobody gets on who needs those stops.
For instance, I got on a train at Lake (Red Line) earlier this summer during rush hour which was stopped to fix an issue with the chains or something on the head end. While mechanical worked on it, we were stopped for about 5 minutes before departing. Not much, but at that time of the day, the Red Line is on tight 2 minute timeline, so now everything behind us was stacking up.
So the dispatcher directed us to run express to Fullerton, skipping Grand, Chicago, Clark/Divison, and North/Clybourn. This resulted in probably about half the people on this completely crammed train getting off, which was promptly replaced. But hey, I got a seat out of it, so no complaints from me, since we made up the time lost and I got to my stop in the same amount of time as normal.
Point is, if they were running express, this man obviously had other plans, or something odd compelling him to do this.
As funny a tumble as this is, it's always fun to watch somebodywho's inattentive/distracted in their phone get knocked over in the curves, rattles, and jolts on the CTA, particularly on the elevated areas. Hold on, folks, this ain't exactly a smooth ride!
RME " Makes me think a bit of how Miningman might sing some of these songs:"
Well heck I lost the body of my message. You see what happens when you are not at home.
Ok start over. It's late I'm tired but cannot accept that the message was in vain. So here we "goes" again.
Yes, that is definitely me singing in the field exploring for gold.
Great cartoons. Those characters always playing with dynamite.
Reminds me of my first year as a student, working the summer at Falconbridges Strathcona Mine. In short order they assigned me to "nipping". A nipper delivers supplies to the miners in a stope. Steel, powder, tape fuse, caps, dynamite and other things. The men would "take their round" that is blast, just before lunch. That way the fumes would clear over lunch. After lunch they would muck out the stope and leave a clean sill for the next shift, who would start the cycle all over. Occasionally they would find a "chunk" a large piece of rock that did not break properly. This required secondary blasting.
In todays mining we do not use dynamite. Ammonium Nitrate ( ANFO) is used as a powder or slurry gel. ANFO was just on the scene back then but many old timers wanted their dynamite. So this miner, lets call him Hugh, tells me he has a chunk and to bring him a few extra sticks of dynamite. I nip them up to him and then climb up the raise to talk to Hugh.
He walks over to the chunk and places the sticks on the chunk, all the while talking away, then rolls out the tape fuse and walks it, and me, back to the raise, yakking the whole time. He lights the tape fuse and says " Ok lets get out of here". Me first.
He starts climbing down, takes a last look, me a few rungs down, and says "Oh sh..!" He yells at me to keep going and get clear.
Turns out one of the sticks rolled off the chunk. He climbs back up and starts to race against the tape fuse, a black powder streak sizzling away to the dynamite, grabs the stick and replaces it on the chunk and runs back to the raise.
I am now out of the raise and waiting 20 feet down the drift .
Boom! Concussion wave unsteadies me for a sec.
His miners hard hat came out before he did.
I'm stunned stupid. Then I see his light bouncing in the dark and moving and sure enough there is Hugh. He is not shaken, but I think well stirred. I cannot remember what he said to me, something like " hope I don't have to do that again" or "never done that before".
Cue the Merry Melodies music.
In Kenora tonight, home of the Giant Muskie and the CPR.
Tired and had to do this story twice so hope it sends this time! Don't fail me now.
Routine on the St. Louis Metrolink, among other sideshows. Some involving bullets.
Sorry to hear about your father, Lion. My sincere condolances.
A new abbot? Pray tell, are you in the running?
54light15Bugs was da man! I mean rabbit.
Sure you don't mean wabbit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weHNnsMY82A
Makes me think a bit of how Miningman might sing some of these songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lupTy1r5ij0
We have a new abbot (well probably--
Sure you don't mean 'wabbot'? (Ah, pwobabwy not, but ... )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8W8LxFRvco
Firelock76Welcome back Lion, you've been away too long!
I qwill plan for a split vacation 1 week to NC and one to Newark Abbey.
We have a new abbot (well probably--the vote is tomorrow.) have to see what I can do.
Bugs was the man! I mean rabbit. No, I really mean wabbit!
54light15 I imagine he's going to sue the CTA. If he's still alive, that is.
I imagine he's going to sue the CTA. If he's still alive, that is.
Sure, probably shopping for an ambulance chaser even as we speak.
As Bugs Bunny used to say, "What a maroon!"
Welcome back Lion, you've been away too long!
Trailing foot first...
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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