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Third Avenue Lightweight Streetcars

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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, July 30, 2017 7:24 PM

Dave- Very glad these photo postings are working out for you. It brings a whole new dimension to your posts. Keep it coming. 

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, July 31, 2017 8:07 AM

Here is a view from the rear window of the first car of a two-car fantrip on Warturton Avenue, the northern portion of the "1" line in Yonkers, with the trolley-wire southbound departure contactor and the Nashod signal visible.  Single-track-with-passing sidings was typical in Yonkers, not in New York City.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, July 31, 2017 8:19 AM

The 5 line, Neperhan Avenue, was also single track, and here is a gethering of the two fan-trip cars and a regular service car:

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, July 31, 2017 8:24 AM

The fan-trip also covered the seldom-used short half-way connecting link between the single-track 5 and 6, with a grade crossing as shown with the Central's Putnam Division.

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Posted by NorthWest on Monday, July 31, 2017 11:12 AM

Great shots, Dave. Thanks for sharing!

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, August 02, 2017 2:35 AM

And here is a 626-685 series car being demonstrated to possible new users, probably officials from Vienna, in 1948, a Treemont Avenue line car being demonstrated on the Southern Boulevard line at 169th St. in The Bronx.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, August 02, 2017 2:39 AM

And a Spring 1960 photo in the Floresdorf section of Vienna:

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, August 02, 2017 2:41 AM

Ditto, side view:

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, August 02, 2017 2:43 AM

And Jack May or another friend send me a photo of one preserved in a Vienna museum:

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:27 AM

Before the introduction of the Huffliner Peter-Witt-doors 551-625 series in 1937 and 1938, the new 101-200 series was introduced to "B" Broadway - 42nd Street in 1936.  By the end of 1938, they had all been transfered to "T" Third-and-Amsterdam Avenue and the "K" (for Kingsbridge) Amsterdam Ave. & Broadway, with a few on 10th Avenue.  Here is a 1936 photo on 42nd Street:

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:32 AM

And at the end of its New York Citiy career, in 1948, a now pole-equipped 101-series replaced much older Brill convertables on the "A" Westchester Avenue line.  Some of these cars ended up in Bombay.

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:41 AM

Likewise, one of the five 301-series that had been used on hilly Ogdon Avenue in-part replaced convertables on the "C" "Bronx and Van Courtland Parks" line, here photographed at 238th and Broadway.  Second-hand lightweights from the University Avenue line completed the replacement.  The "C" was bussed shortly after this late 1947 photo, but the track was maintained servicable for about a year as one of the two connections between the Yonkers and Westchester lines and the remaining lines in The Bronx.

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, August 03, 2017 3:08 AM

And here we are at Fordham Road and The Grand Concourse with one of the 101-series lightweights that replaced convertables on the 207th-Street-Fordham Road Crosstown.  (All "Crosstowns," 42nd* St., 59th St.*, 125th St.*, 138th St., 149th St.**, 163rd St., !67-169th St., 207th ST. displayed "X."  180th St. was an exception, "Z", because it shared West 181st St. with the 167th in Washington Heights, Manhattan, both lines running mostly in The Bronx.  "O" Ogden Avneue and "U" University Avenue also used West 181st St. "T" was used for Treemont Avenue, which also ran Crosstown.  But west of Webster Avenue, in The Bronx, the "Z" actually used Treemont Avenue, and the "T" Treemont Avnue used Burnside Avenue!  Starred lines are conduit lines.  The double-starred 149th Street Crosstown used trolley wire in The Bronx and conduit on West 145th Street in Manhattan, with the plow-pit on the Manhattan side of the bridge at the east side of Lenox Avenue. Other lines used only trolley wire.

The Fordham Road Station of the Jerome Avenue structure is in the background.

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Posted by 54light15 on Thursday, August 03, 2017 10:08 AM

There's an identical car to the one in the museum in Vienna in the tram museum in Crich in the U.K. They have a small line but a big collection of vehicles. 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Thursday, August 03, 2017 6:12 PM

David, my wife Lady Firestorm thanks you so much for those Yonkers photos!  Her father grew up in Yonkers on Nepperhan Avenue and were he still with us I'm sure he'd have lots of stories to tell about those streetcars.  Her father was quite the railfan as well, I'm sure you would have enjoyed each other's company.

Ashburton, Warburton, Palisade Avenue, Sawmill River Parkway, Park Avenue, Nepperhan, she knows them all.

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, August 13, 2017 5:14 AM

I was successful in posting one photo with each posting.  I will now try mutliple photos.

Third & Amsterdam car on 125th Street, March '47.

398 on the "T" at 125th and Amsterdam, using the double-track Wye to run north on Amsterdam, having come from Park Row on Third.  As I mentioned the top five of the 301-400 series were originally conduit cars as here shown.

 

 

400 also had this slightly different paint scheme.  There is a feeble atttempt at an "X" in chalk on the blank sign, hard to see, with the car running on the 125th Crosstown, here at St. Nicholous Avenue

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, August 14, 2017 3:59 AM

173 also had the modified paint scheme, and is here running south as a put-in for the 125th Crosstown, here on Amsterdam Avenue around 152nd Steet.  Possibly someone will identify the church and provide a more exact location.

I believe ths rather poor photo is on St. Nicholous Svenue around 160th Street.   The car was in K service, but without a proper sign.

With a proper sign, further north on Broadway, around 190th Street, looking north.

 

On West 181st, just east of Broadway, was the double-track, sizzors-crossover terminal for four Bronx streetcar lines, the "O" Ogden Avenue, turning south on Ogdan Avenue after crossing the "Washington Bridge," including a steep hill descent, then running west over the McCumbs Dam or 155th Street Bridge back into Manhattan to 155th and Amsterdam, a U-shaped rout on its side or C-shaped rout reversed.  Five 301-400 series cars were normally assigned to the line, because their dynamic brakes helped on the grade.  Note the practically identacle architecture of the 101-200-series cars, built from lengthened single-truck cars, and the all-new bodies for the 301-400's.  The X ex-Manhattan car is on the 167th crosstown; the Z 180th Street used convertables up to busing.  The car in the distance is one of the second-hand cars also on the 167th X.  The U University Avenue also ran here, and was the 4th line.  The Z ran north on university with the U until reaching the Treemont Avenue.

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