Caltrain Electrification

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:42 PM

The problem you pose has already been solved on the ex-IC Metra Electric and the South Shore for gallery cars, and European commuter equipment for lozenge-shaped end-vestibule cars.  

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:52 PM

If there is a will - there is a way

No will - no way

         

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Posted by GERALD L MCFARLANE JR on Sunday, February 26, 2017 8:48 PM

What's funny about all of this is that most of the plans also call for grade-crossing elimination along most of the route, which is technically feasible in most cities with few exceptions(Atherton and Menlo Park being two prime examples).  Atherton already lost it's stop because of whiners...the withholding of Federal Funds is just Denhams tactic of So-Cal vs Nor-Cal(besides the fact he's anti-Rail).  The money is already in the Federal budget for 2017, so why hold it up to see what Donald does with the 2018 budget?

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:20 PM

What our low level advocates appear to forget is Caltrain's need to reduce travel time between end points.  The ability to reduce station dwell times  is part of that need.  That allows Caltrain to run an additional train during rush hours.

As well the use of Caltrain's baby bullets that by pass short platform stations but make cross platform transfers between locals and bullets is a factor in reducing station dwell..

Caltrain is certainly planning to eliminate at least at some grade crossings at one end of stations and then those stations can get longer platforms if needed.  Eventual length of platforms may be set by the under  construction transbay terminal platform lengths.  Any one know ?

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Posted by MikeF90 on Monday, February 27, 2017 4:11 PM

I must retract part of my last post; even though electrification is barely cost justifiable given the modest frequency increase, it is necessary for CalTrain access to the new TTC.

The TTC website is very opaque with respect to facilities details. Most CalTrain platforms are 600 foot long and the TTC box looks like it could accomodate longer ones. The TTC will have six tracks with three (center?) platforms.

However, the problematic issue was glossed over in the EIR - ground side station access by rubber tire vehicles.  Many CalTrain stations have very poor street access, so those large tech company shuttle buses (not to mention public transit) have limited options. Grade crossing elimination will be very difficult and expensive due to extremely high property values. Street closures will have little support and would make the old downtown areas even more gridlocked.

As for Congressman Denham's involvement, he is a certifiable idiot fairly typical politician.  Many of his constituents commute by ACE Rail to the South Bay.

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Posted by GERALD L MCFARLANE JR on Monday, February 27, 2017 4:33 PM

MikeF90

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Grade crossing elimination will be very difficult and expensive due to extremely high property values. Street closures will have little support and would make the old downtown areas even more gridlocked.

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That has already been addressed, at least in part, with very few exceptions intersections that are near grade crossings will be eliminated thereby allowing the construction of either overpasses or underpasses...besides Menlo Park, Atherton and perhaps a couple of others all of the preliminary design(at least sketchwork) for replacing the vast majority of at grade crossings as been done.  The problem with property values is taken care of by the use of eminate domain(perfectly legal in this case so it would behove property owners to take what they could get, or they could get absolutely zero).

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Posted by PNWRMNM on Monday, February 27, 2017 4:49 PM

GERALD L MCFARLANE JR
The problem with property values is taken care of by the use of eminate domain(perfectly legal in this case so it would behove property owners to take what they could get, or they could get absolutely zero).

You know nothing about eminent domain. The taking agency must pay fair market value for the property. Its practical effect is to prevent one or more property owners from holding up a project, in terms of money and time both.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Monday, May 22, 2017 5:30 PM

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