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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Wednesday, November 09, 2016 5:04 PM

My bad, I just enlarged the photo and it is plantings. is that some type of ivey? What can you tell us about it. Is there a ledge where it is planted? My depth perception in the photo does not show  it to well and the screen showed it as dark but not very green. Thanks Mike.

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Posted by jmonier on Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:21 AM
The beige is a separate wall in front of the new wall. In another of the photos you can actually see a tree in the space in between.
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Posted by NIGEL CORNWELL on Sunday, November 27, 2016 6:34 AM

It is great to see this line finally being built. I worked on the design of the extension from Aviation Blvd through El Segundo, and the wye to be able to extend service north on Aviation Blvd. was one of the key items of the project. That was in early 1988!

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Posted by MikeF90 on Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:39 PM

NIGEL CORNWELL
It is great to see this line finally being built. I worked on the design of the extension from Aviation Blvd through El Segundo, and the wye to be able to extend service north on Aviation Blvd. was one of the key items of the project. That was in early 1988!

Slightly OT, but do you know why the stations west of Aviation were designed for only two cars? Most of the system platforms can accomodate three.

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Posted by MikeF90 on Friday, December 16, 2016 3:08 PM

Another photo oriented progress report from the Metro blog:

http://thesource.metro.net/2016/12/09/fresh-pics-latest-roundup-of-crenshawlax-line-construction/

Physical changes to this area have made it hard to recognize from when I worked in the area 35 years ago. A WWII era worker at North American or Douglas would find almost no landmarks from their time remaining. 

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Posted by K. P. Harrier on Saturday, December 17, 2016 8:50 PM

MikeF90 and All:

Towards the end of the month, that last week, word is I’ll have a dispatch to right near that area, right by the 105 Freeway and LAX, reportedly before dawn.  When the sun comes up I should be able to get some photos.  Your great photos, MikeF90, are increasingly hard for me to interpret WHERE exactly they were taken from because things are change so fast!  I need to get out that way and see it for myself.

It is unknown if I can find a vantage point for this or not, but I hope to use a telephoto lens to take a photo that shows Century Blvd., the LAX runways area, and the 105 Freeway and all the new light rail bridging all in one photo.

And, Mike, that link of the Crenshaw-LAX  route northward a ways made me determine to try to get photos, maybe even of that digging machine if possible.  If that dispatch falls through (not likely), I think I’ll get out that way regardless.

It is unknown if you have plans to get out that way and take more photos, but if you don’t I should have something to post around the end of the year.

Take care,

K.P.

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Posted by K. P. Harrier on Tuesday, January 03, 2017 12:20 PM

Last Day of the 2016 Year Check …

… on the Crenshaw-LAX Line

Part “A” (of A-D)

On Saturday, December 31, 2016 a way before dawn dispatch to the El Segundo area (CA) was taken care of, in the LAX airport area.  Afterwards, the Crenshaw-LAX line was checked out. 

Below are the results of a single shutter release by Century Blvd. and Airport Drive, looking south, the below one a very blown-up view of the first one.

That project has severe situations, as above, with an elevated track (left, first photo, south side) nose diving to go under (i.e., in a trench) a jet flight path and immediately elevates (right) to bride over a main roadway artery (Century Blvd.).

Vehicle traffic made it difficult to photograph the above dawn shot.

Even earlier, about a couple of blocks southwest of that above intersection, the south slope of that flyover is seen in the next photo.

The light came from business on the road where the camera was.

A view of the flyover lowering into a trench, in less light:

Continued in Part B

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Posted by K. P. Harrier on Tuesday, January 03, 2017 12:27 PM

Last Day of the 2016 Year Check …

… on the Crenshaw-LAX Line

Part “B” (of A-D)

Up north a ways, at the east-west Manchester Blvd., another flyover is seen, above the old BNSF alignment (see the leftover track is roadway).

Those businesses across the street on the left (above) that probably paid good money for the property and built those building slantingly to be seen by the heavy vehicle traffic are probably not too happy that the Crenshaw-LAX flyover here will block much of the view of their properties from oncoming westward (leftward) vehicle traffic. 

Another view with the old track on the lower left.

Looking southwest, with an aircraft on approach to LAX's north runways.

On the north side the flyover lowers, and Aviation Drive curves with a new street name, Florence Ave.

Continued in Part C

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Posted by K. P. Harrier on Tuesday, January 03, 2017 12:31 PM

Last Day of the 2016 Year Check …

… on the Crenshaw-LAX Line

Part “C” (of A-D)

At Oaks Street and Florence Ave., looking southwest now, another flyover of somesort lowers as it come northeast.

Looking northeast:

The old Santa Fe grade crossing:

Continued in Part D

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Posted by K. P. Harrier on Tuesday, January 03, 2017 12:36 PM

Last Day of the 2016 Year Check …

… on the Crenshaw-LAX Line

Part “D” (of A-D)

Looking east on Florence Ave. from Fir Ave., the line curves up on another flyover.

From this spot K.P. soon lost the routing northeastward.  There seemed to be construction on the old BNSF Harbor Sub, and also up the center of Crenshaw Blvd.  K.P. is hoping to extensive research this and take onsite photos in the next month or two.

This will end the series.

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Posted by ORNHOO on Tuesday, January 03, 2017 4:00 PM

K. P. Harrier

Last Day of the 2016 Year Check …

… on the Crenshaw-LAX Line

Part “D” (of A-D)

From this spot K.P. soon lost the routing northeastward.  There seemed to be construction on the old BNSF Harbor Sub, and also up the center of Crenshaw Blvd.  K.P. is hoping to extensive research this and take onsite photos in the next month or two.

This will end the series.

 

Maybe this will be of use: http://la.curbed.com/2016/12/29/14120392/video-flyover-crenshaw-lax-light-rail

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Posted by MikeF90 on Wednesday, January 04, 2017 4:05 AM

No sympathy at all for the businesses just northwest of the Manchester Blvd flyover. The ROW is the LA - Inglewood border, and the inept City of LA let them build without enough parking or street access. All for the privilege of more regs and higher fees in LA.

OTOH the nearby LR station will be close to a new microbrewery and some great small restos on the Inglewood side.

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At Oak Street and Florence Ave., looking southwest now, another flyover of somesort lowers as it come northeast.

This is the east end of the flyover over the I-405 freeway. The bridge looks spectacular but I haven't figured out a good place to shoot it from.

 

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Posted by MikeF90 on Sunday, January 29, 2017 4:13 PM

Construction progress is slow but steady. At the south end of the new line, the wood framing on the wye is being removed. Finally I was able to get some shots of the trench near 104th Street:

Looking south we see the multiple pipe supports which will probably be in place until the trench walls and floor are complete and self supporting.

Looking north we see the future 'roller coaster' where the trains will go from a trench to the Century Blvd flyover.

The final picture shows the ongoing wall construction next to the short 104th Street 'tunnel', er road bridge.

 

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, January 30, 2017 11:02 PM

I get to visit my old territory next week and I'm getting ready to admit I no longer recognize it. I'll be staying about a quarter mile from the now replaced MP 13.1 hump bridge over Century Blvd. on the severed Harbor Sub. with the rest of my AREMA tribe. Thanx for the preview. 

Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by K. P. Harrier on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:37 AM

mudchicken (1-30):

So, you admit that you “no longer recognize it,” the LAX (airport) area and the ex-Santa Fe Harbor Line.  I was a kid in the 60’s and have seen the area evolve, but I, like you, must admit to now having difficulty recognizing the area by the ex-AT&SF track!

Reshown December 31, 2016 dawn view, looking south with Century Blvd. the bottom cross street

Enjoy your visit to that area … and give yourself plenty of time to hike (“hike”) around the area.  You will regret it if you don’t!

Best,

K.P.

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 12:44 PM

The irony is that we are staying there so we can go look at the San Gabriel Trench hole-in-da-ground operation....Will take a look on foot where I can.

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Posted by MikeF90 on Monday, February 20, 2017 4:52 PM

More construction photos have been posted to Metro's blog:

http://thesource.metro.net/2017/02/16/fresh-pics-crenshawlax-line-construction-2/

Hard for a visitor to get underground shots :-).

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Monday, February 20, 2017 6:05 PM

What damage has occurred in the construction zones during all the current rains ?

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Posted by MikeF90 on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 3:04 PM

blue streak 1
What damage has occurred in the construction zones during all the current rains ?

Probably no way of knowing.  If weather causes significant delays and requires 'do overs', the contractor may seek some 'financial and schedule relief'.

OTOH the contractor has to be prepared for construction during our 'wet' season.  Also, the construction area isn't near any significant waterways that a flash flood would hit. Storm drains work pretty well!

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Posted by ORNHOO on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 3:22 PM

OTOH the contractor has to be prepared for construction during our 'wet' season.  

 

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Did they listen to Albert hammond?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Never_Rains_In_Southern_California

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Posted by MikeF90 on Friday, April 21, 2017 7:38 PM

The contractor has completed the second tunnel for this line; pictures are here on the Metro web site: http://thesource.metro.net/2017/04/21/crenshawlax-lines-tunnel-boring-machine-officially-retired-at-media-event-and-other-pics-from-project/

Meanwhile, more tunneling is in progress on the Purple Line extension and the downtown Regional Connector.

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Posted by MikeF90 on Saturday, May 06, 2017 4:09 PM

More construction pictures from the LAC Metro blog:

http://thesource.metro.net/2017/05/05/fresh-pics-recent-crenshawlax-line-construction/

Mysteriously the recent clear weather has been interrupted this weekend in order to interfere with photography. Surprise

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Posted by K. P. Harrier on Saturday, May 13, 2017 7:29 PM

A “Spectacular” Bridge and Chopper Madness

In MikeF90’s post of January 4, 2017 (Wow, does time ever fly!) he said the under construction Crenshaw-LAX bridging up and over the 405 Freeway looked “spectacular,” then said “but I haven’t figured out a good place to shoot it from.”  That inspired K.P. to visit the site yesterday, May 12, 2017.  Yes, it is most unusual, and K.P. is not sure he understands what he saw.  But, whatever it was, it IS on the somewhat hard side of photograph, but aerials suggest it is possible, and he hopes to return soon in an attempt (“attempt”) to capture the spectacular-ness of the up and over bridge.

Nevertheless, this visit's photos were shot from a very nearby road with questionable results.  That road was a most unusual one, kind of a chopper-a-go-go situation!  And the below scene isn’t even half of it!

Anyway, in a few days K.P. hopes to post his findings on and from a nearby street that is near the new bridging over the 405 Freeway, plus the transition location where the Crenshaw Line branches off northward from the Santa Fe Railway Harbor Line to the tunneling under the Crenshaw Blvd. for some distance   The present northern terminus area where it will “T” (at different levels) with the Expo Line looks rather spectacular in itself, with the property’s ‘can’t see inside’ fence around it, and a high crane!  And, mid-route, track IS NOW being laid along the route, though none of the track laying was photographed in the limit time K.P. had!

Expect a post series sometime next week.

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Posted by K. P. Harrier on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:09 PM

Visiting the Crenshaw-LAX Line

May 12, 2017

Part I (of I-IV)

A focus on the bridging over the 405 Freeway was made, from a street just northeast of the 405 Freeway.  The street is Hyde Park Blvd., and the Crenshaw-LAX line (under construction bridging) is between Florence Ave. (cross street in the background) and Augusta Street (foreground cross street).

Looking northeast:

Southwest:

As is seen in the just above extreme blowup, some type of thick ‘something’ goes over the 405 Freeway possibly holding up the temporary bracing for the under construction bridge.

Continued in Part II

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Posted by K. P. Harrier on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:15 PM

Visiting the Crenshaw-LAX Line

May 12, 2017

Part II (of I-IV)

Looking northeast at the bridging under construction over Hyde Park Blvd.  Note the Santa Fe Harbor Line track still in the ex-grade crossing.

The bridging is right next to Florence Ave.  Looking southwest:

Above, the fencing on the left is where Florence Ave. goes over the 405 Freeway.

Views were disappointing of that “something” over the 405 Freeway.  Sometime in the future an effort will be made to photograph that ‘something,’ possibly hiking in to do so.

Looking north on Hyde Park Blvd.  Motorcycles are on both sides of the street.

Northward views from the light rail cars that will eventually go over the bridge over Hyde Park Blvd. will be a good advertisement for those chopper shops.  The last time K.P. was on a motorcycle was maybe 45 years ago.  Too many people he knew got killed with them, so he and his dad sold their bikes …

Continued in Part III

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Posted by K. P. Harrier on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:20 PM

Visiting the Crenshaw-LAX Line

May 12, 2017

Part III (of I-IV)

We now go to where the old Santa Fe Harbor Line northeastwardly crosses Crenshaw Blvd.  Apparently, the transit line will now turn north and follow the center of Crenshaw Blvd.

More northward views:

On a previous passing through this area, Crenshaw Blvd. was down to one lane in each direction because of the construction.  Now it is two lanes in each directly.  The center of the street construction goes for several blocks and ends.  Likely, this area is where the tracks will start to tunnel under Crenshaw Blvd. and be an underground line for a while.  K.P., in traveling north on Crenshaw Blvd., passed NO other construction.  Apparently, everything will be underground from here north.

Continued in Part IV

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Posted by K. P. Harrier on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:24 PM

Visiting the Crenshaw-LAX Line

May 12, 2017

Part IV (of I-IV)

The Crenshaw-LAX Line goes north until it reaches Exposition Blvd., where the east-west Expo Line crosses.

In a previous visit buildings were on the southeast corner of Crenshaw Blvd. and Exposition Blvd.  They are all gone now and a high fence surround the property and a high crane is present.

Not in this construction phase, but sometime in the future the Crenshaw-LAX line will be continued northward and meet-up with another east-west line.

This will conclude the series.

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Posted by K. P. Harrier on Sunday, July 09, 2017 9:45 AM

The Situation Update as of Friday, July 7, 2017

Of the Rather Illogical and Things …

… that Don’t Appear to Make Sense!

Until the last almost two months ago visit, K.P. had never seen Santa Fe’s “Harbor Sub” Line that snaked through the Inglewood area.  A past resident of the nearby Inland Empire for decades, he had a good, general knowledge of the L.A. basin, but somehow the Inglewood rail scene had escaped him.  So, he checked it out recently, and found the construction of the rail crossing of the 405 Freeway rather mysterious.  So, this visit he focused on that mysteriousness!

Views of that under construction flyover type bridging from the paralleling Florence Ave. that goes over the 405 Freeway:

A direct side view and the patriotism of the construction company:

So, what is with that above wooden bridge type construction over another wood type construction?

The key photo:  Note the shadowed concrete bridging ABOVE the whitish barricade on the lower right:

So, apparently, the OLD Santa Fe concrete bridge over the 405 Freeway was left in place and used as a platform for the wooden vertical construction supports!

The sloping “flyover” type aspect of the southwest approach to the new bridge:

So, there we have it, and a mystery solved!  Of course, now one has to wonder HOW the old Santa Fe Bridge will eventually be taken down with a flyover above it!  It is not like they can bring a crane in and hoist up the old bridge from above …

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