Trains.com

Cleveland RTA considering closing two stations

1667 views
13 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    September 2014
  • 1,180 posts
Cleveland RTA considering closing two stations
Posted by ROBERT WILLISON on Wednesday, November 5, 2014 12:12 PM

An article in today Cleveland plain dealer about closing two east side stations , east 34 the and east 79th. The station require nearly 25 million dollar in renovation. In the picture of the station you can still catanary that held the power lines for the original Cleveland union terminals big electrics built in 1929. The CTS  ran parallel and under them both on the east and west side.

  • Member since
    June 2002
  • 20,096 posts
Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:31 AM

do the stations have minimal usage?   what alternative transportation is availabe?

  • Member since
    September 2014
  • 1,180 posts
Posted by ROBERT WILLISON on Thursday, November 6, 2014 2:47 AM

Not advocating either to close or retain the stations. Just putting it out thier. The picture brought back memories of the CTS rapids and cut right of way. Often the rapids would pace an inbound or out bound passenger train.

  • Member since
    June 2002
  • 20,096 posts
Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, November 6, 2014 2:52 AM

sure----   remember doing that, both sides.

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • 964 posts
Posted by gardendance on Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:31 AM

What does CTS mean?

Patrick Boylan

Free yacht rides, 27' sailboat, zip code 19114 Delaware River, get great Delair bridge photos from the river. Send me a private message

  • Member since
    September 2003
  • 21,669 posts
Posted by Overmod on Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:48 AM

gardendance

What does CTS mean?

I'm pretty sure he means RTA.

[Edit: yes, this qualifies as a 'WHOOOOOSH'.  Even more so because I did know that the pre-RTA acronym was CTS... no excuse.]

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • 964 posts
Posted by gardendance on Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:41 AM

Overmod, that's quite a typo, and he did it twice in this thread. He also put RTA in the title. I appreciate your guess, but only Robert Willison's reply will help me acheive the pleasure of my life.

Patrick Boylan

Free yacht rides, 27' sailboat, zip code 19114 Delaware River, get great Delair bridge photos from the river. Send me a private message

  • Member since
    March 2016
  • From: Burbank IL (near Clearing)
  • 13,540 posts
Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:45 AM

CTS is Cleveland Transit System, RTA is Regional Transit Authority.  The last acronym can cause confusion for a Chicagoan talking on the phone with someone from Cleveland, especially due to some similar street names and addresses. 

The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
  • Member since
    September 2014
  • 1,180 posts
Posted by ROBERT WILLISON on Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:11 AM

Shrt was the shaker heights rapid transit

  • Member since
    September 2014
  • 1,180 posts
Posted by ROBERT WILLISON on Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:34 AM

Yes indeed the CTS was the Cleveland transit system,t running from Windermere  to union terminal and on to I think don't quote me to west 6 th. Street. It was extended to Cleveland international in 1967.  It is a heavy rail line. It was the first rapid transit sytem in the northern hemisphere to offer a direct line to a international airport. The shaker heights ran on two east side lines from green road and van Allen down to union terminal and was a light rail system. It was originally the Cleveland  interurban  railroad. In 1920 it was swallowed up van sweringen brothers and extended to Cleveland union terminal in 1930. In 1944 the city of shaker heights bought the line. In 1975 the RTA regional transit authority took over  both the cts and shrt and is primarily a greater Cleveland and cuyhoga county operation. It also took over 5 bus companies operated by local cities such as the maple heights transit system. Sorry if I caused confusion.

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • 964 posts
Posted by gardendance on Thursday, November 6, 2014 4:01 PM

Thanks for the explanation. Remember many of us foreigners read these posts and don't have Cleveland knowledge anywhere approaching that of Drew Carey.

Did the name CTS apply to all of Cleveland's transit, except of course Shaker Heights Rapid Transit, which from your writing seems to have kept its corporate identity separate until it joined the Regional Transit Authority?

Patrick Boylan

Free yacht rides, 27' sailboat, zip code 19114 Delaware River, get great Delair bridge photos from the river. Send me a private message

  • Member since
    September 2014
  • 1,180 posts
Posted by ROBERT WILLISON on Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:42 PM

The history of the Cleveland transit system dates back to the 1880 with the formation of the Cleveland electric railway, a merger of various street car and interurban lines. This system continued until 1910 when financial and labor issue forced the city to form the Cleveland railway co a municipal franchise that took over many of the city street car and bus system. The CRC operated until 1942 when again issues raised and the city issued 17.5 million dollars in bonds to buy  the company's share and the municipally owned Cleveland transit system took over.

  • Member since
    March 2016
  • From: Burbank IL (near Clearing)
  • 13,540 posts
Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, November 7, 2014 10:02 AM

Chicago's path to municipalization of mass transit was remarkably similar to that of Cleveland.  Consolidation of street railways into four underlying companies with unified operations and management by Chicago Surface Lines occurred by 1914 with a similar consolidation of the four rapid transit companies into Chicago Rapid Transit Company in 1924.  Both were municipalized as the Chicago Transit Authority in 1947.  CTA added Chicago Motor Coach (the Boulevard Route) in 1953.

The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
  • Member since
    September 2014
  • 1,180 posts
Posted by ROBERT WILLISON on Friday, November 7, 2014 12:09 PM

Interesting!!!!

Join our Community!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

Search the Community

Newsletter Sign-Up

By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy