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French Railway Error ? ( or in English: measure twice, cut once)

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French Railway Error ? ( or in English: measure twice, cut once)
Posted by samfp1943 on Wednesday, May 21, 2014 1:31 PM

      This little story has been floating arounf the Internet for several days. Originally in the French Publication: "Le Canard Enchaine"  ( rough translation: "The Chained Duck" )  It is a politically satirical publication in France.Yeah

  I'd bet this story will give some our American RR Professional a chuckle up their collective sleeves. Whistling

To the point of all this (The Story: "Cost per inch? In millions for French train flub"

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Posted by wanswheel on Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:24 PM

Red faces as new French trains 'too wide' for stations

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/lightbox/red-faces-french-trains-too-photo-103159455.html

Paris, May 21

Cash-strapped France will have to trim back some 1,300 rail platforms at a cost of 50 million euros after realising its brand new trains are too wide to fit in the stations, rail operators admitted on Wednesday.

France's secretary of state for transport, Frederic Cuvillier, called it a "tragically comical", "mind-boggling" mix-up, blaming a lack of coordination between France's two state rail bodies, the SNCF and the RFF.

Cuvillier said he has asked the chiefs of both entities to launch internal investigations into the costly gaffe, saying: "We have to identify how these decisions were made."

The Societe Nationale des Chemins de Fer (SNCF) and the Reseau Ferre de France (RFF) acknowledged the embarrassing situation in a joint statement on Wednesday after it was revealed by satirical weekly Le Canard Enchaine.

Introducing "wider trains in response to the needs of the public requires us to modernise 1,300 of the 8,700 platforms in the French rail network," they said.


According to the Canard Enchaine, the SNCF drew up the specifications for the new-generation trains, including the carriage width.

"But the SNCF's clever engineers forgot to check on the reality on the ground," where the space between platforms varies between stations, it said.

The problem affects 182 regional trains supplied by French manufacturer Alstom and 159 from Canada's Bombardier, due to come into service by 2016.

So far, 300 station platforms have been adapted since work began in 2013, with the project set for completion in 2016.

"It can involve chipping a few centimetres off the edge of a platform, or moving an electricity power box located a bit too close to the platform edge," said RFF.

"It's a bit like buying a Ferrari that you want to fit into your garage, but then realising your garage isn't quite Ferrari-sized, because up until now you didn't own a Ferrari," it offered by way of analogy.

The mix-up drew strong condemnation across the political spectrum, leading to clumsy efforts at damage control by the top rail brass.

RFF boss Jacques Rapoport gave his personal guarantee that ticket prices would not be affected.

"These trains are new. Whenever we introduce new rolling stock, we need to change the infrastructure," he said.

But the explanations failed to satisfy politicians.

"With the price of train tickets steadily rising over the years, this waste of public money is absolutely insufferable," said Marine Le Pen, the head of the far-right National Front party.

Le Pen accused the rail authorities of downplaying the real cost, saying the 50-million-euro ($68 million) figure was a "gross underestimation".

Main opposition leader Jean-Francois Cope from the centre-right UMP party called it a "Kafkaesque" situation and the head of France's ruling Socialist party was equally scathing.

"It's absolutely astounding. Frankly, I don't understand," said Jean-Christophe Cambadelis.

Valerie Rabault, the Socialist rapporteur from the parliamentary budget committee, meanwhile said SNCF head Guillaume Pepy should resign.

"Fifty million euros is a lot of money and we are the laughing stock of the international press," she said.

The SNCF and RFF are to be merged into one entity under reform plans to be unveiled in June.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:59 PM

It was covered up for at least 6 months as work to modify platforms started in 2013.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Wednesday, June 4, 2014 7:13 AM

In most of the US, where rail-level platforms are the norm, this would be a non-issue.

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Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, June 5, 2014 11:40 AM

It's what clearance cars are for. (from "bamboo peacocks" to photogrammetric units to laser scanners)...Same old problem, different continent. (What? Track/engineering, Mechanical and Operating talk to each other?Mischief)

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Thursday, June 5, 2014 12:28 PM
blue streak 1

It was covered up for at least 6 months as work to modify platforms started in 2013.

Have to retract this statement. It appears that the plan was to go to the larger clearance so TGV trains could negotiate these lines which at present they can not traverse.
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Thursday, June 5, 2014 7:33 PM
The problem was known by French railroads the day contract was signed. bigger issue is those Dumb French ordered 2000 EMU cars while in this great country, we could not get funding for 200 Amtrak cars ?? so who is Dumb now.....

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