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F train at 65th St. Queens, NY
Posted by henry6 on Friday, May 2, 2014 11:18 AM

No real details at this time...but an NYC MTA  "F" train derailed in the tunnel under 65th St. Queens this morning shutting down the tracks that also handles E, M and R services.  No injuries reported, but emergency crews are on the scene administering aid...seems to be a lot of smoke in tunnel.  LIRR honoring subway riders to and from NYP making all Queens stops.  Riders urged to use the J and 7 trains or LIRR.

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Posted by narig01 on Friday, May 2, 2014 2:49 PM
Not much in details yet. 6 cars of an 8 car train on the ground.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/03/nyregion/subway-train-derails-in-queens.html?hpw&rref=nyregion

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Friday, May 2, 2014 4:01 PM

Official Photos. Interesting, very interesting.

Orderly evacuation to the tracks and then to the emergency exit.

There were no switches in the area. First and last cars remained on the tracks.

Could have been a broken rail or it could have been a broken wheel.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, May 3, 2014 6:46 AM

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Official Photos. Interesting, very interesting.

 

appears that MTA culture of informing the public is going throughout the whole system.  That seems to keep unfounded speculation to a minimum.  Any pictures of the Hudson line landslide ?

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, May 3, 2014 2:47 PM

NEW YORK — Transit officials say a section of rail that snapped and caused a New York City subway train to derail had been installed just weeks ago.

The Metropolitan Transit Authority said Saturday that the rail that broke underneath an F train in Queens on Friday was manufactured in the U.S. in November. It was installed in March.

The MTA says other rails from that shipment will be inspected.

About 1,000 commuters were on board the train when it rode off the rails at 10:15 a.m.

Nineteen people were injured, four seriously. Several hundred were trapped on the train below ground for hours.

MTA workers are repairing a damaged 500-foot stretch of rail and aim to have local service restored by Saturday afternoon.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, May 3, 2014 2:56 PM

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Posted by daveklepper on Saturday, May 3, 2014 3:19 PM

Interesting if you can find out what service was contniued to be provided on the affected lines.  Where did they "short-turn" trains from either direction.

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, May 4, 2014 1:29 AM

What I found, may now be old with more service restored:

There were several service changes as a result of the derailment. There is no E train service between Jamaica Center/Parsons Archer and Queens Plaza in both directions. There is no F train service between Jamaica/179th St. and 21st St./Queensbridge in both directions.

On the M line, trains are not running between 71st Ave./Forest Hills and Essex St. in both directions. On the R line, trains are not running between 71st Ave./Forest Hills and 57th St./7th Ave. in both directions.
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Posted by henry6 on Sunday, May 4, 2014 9:12 AM

Update from MTA  for F and E trains:Trains make local stops at 67 Av, 63 Dr, Woodhaven Blvd, Grand Av, Elmhurst Av, Roosevelt Av, 65 St, Northern Blvd, 46, Steinway and 36 Sts. but they are running from respective end terminals. M train is running its route but the R train terminating in Manhattan at 57th and 7th.  In effect, the E and F trains are not expressing in the area of the derailment.  At least that is the MTA website schedules and delays this morning.


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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, May 4, 2014 10:21 AM

Note that this means three routes, M, E, and F, all using the Queens Blv local tracks from just east of Queens Plaza, where the F joins, all the way to 71st and Continental, Forest Hills, where the M terminates.  I suspect they are currently running a six minute rush hour headway on all three lines, for every two miniiute headway on these local tracks.  This is a slight reduction in service for the E and F, and normal for the M.   But they may have a pattern like F, E, F, M, E, F. E, M, F, E, F, M, E, F, E, M, which would correspond better to passenger demand.   F and M down 6th Avenue, F via 63rd Street tunnel and Roosevelt island, M via 53rd Street, and E down 8th Avenue via 53rd Street.   This means there is no operating service from the Queens Blvd IND line down the BMT Broadway line, with the R out of service north and west of 57th Street and 7th Avenue.  34th Strteet Herald Square is the transfer point between the 6th Avenue line and the BMT Broadway line.   Tne N Astoria line does provide service from Queens down Broadway and is unaffected. 

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Posted by henry6 on Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:57 PM

The way you describe it Dave, it is apparent why the R train doesn't go to Forest HIlls: simply there is no room for the trains in those close headways.  Thanks.

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, May 5, 2014 8:36 AM

And in order to make room for the R to use the center tracks as pocket tracks at 57th Street, they are running or ran the Q, which normally turns at 57th, through to Astoria, where it reverses along with the N, but the three track layout on the line gives a place for gap trains, or disabled trians, or whatever, and is thus more flexible to handle two services that 57th Street, where all you have are the center two platform tracks.

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, May 5, 2014 8:57 AM

Also, running the Q to Astoria replaced the R service at the important 59th Street and Lexington Avenue station, where many Lexington riders use the N and normally the R to access 7th Avenue and Broadway without needing to use the shuttle.

 Apparently in time for AM rush Monday morning, normal service on all these lines.   Terrrific job!

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Posted by narig01 on Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:01 PM
Juggle juggle toss toss. Its what you pay for good people who can adapt to difficult situations.
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