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L.A. Metro Gold Line Foothill Extension Updates

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, August 07, 2017 4:02 PM

Yes, the long term plan is to connect the Blue and the Gold, redirecting the Blue line from Long beach to Claremont and on to Ontario Airport, the southern part of the current Gold Line will become an extension of the Expo line, the map above represents the planning for the full Metrorail system envisioned and now thanks to Measure M may become reality. 

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Posted by K. P. Harrier on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 8:45 AM

Yellow (Gold) + Blue = “A”

The reports are that the powers that be have been planning for a long time to connect the Gold Line (northern segment) to the Blue Line.  Yellow (gold) plus blue equals green, but since there already is a Green Line … Letters are planned.  So, the idea is to have a Long Beach to Azusa (Montclair) line called the “A” Line.  Interesting concept …

The above photo of the present Blue Line was taken July 7, 2017 at Nadeau Street and Graham Ave., looking south towards the Firestone Blvd. overpass tracks, the left two are the Blue Line’s while the right two are Union Pacific’s, for a four-track right-of-way.  UP’s tracks are for locals, whereas the Alameda Corridor trench for Intermodals is about a half a mile to the east.

vsmith (8-7):

Cool diagram map … but a microscope is needed to see it!  Oh, well.

In connecting the present Blue Line to the Gold Line, I am somewhat at a loss as to how the powers that be plan on connecting the two lines.  Do you know, vsmith?  I sure hope “beam me over Scotty” technology won’t be used in the transition routing …

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Posted by K. P. Harrier on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 8:50 AM

vsmith (8-7) Continued:

South of Union Station in Los Angeles, where the southern Gold Line curves eastward, there seems to be a huge construction project going on, as if a subway was being built.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Los+Angeles,+CA/@34.0490947,-118.2385629,199m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2c75ddc27da13:0xe22fdf6f254608f4!8m2!3d34.0522342!4d-118.2436849?hl=en

Along the Los Angeles River a bit to the east, there are tracks, assumedly new, that goes into some type tunneling.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Los+Angeles,+CA/@34.0517304,-118.2309508,199m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2c75ddc27da13:0xe22fdf6f254608f4!8m2!3d34.0522342!4d-118.2436849?hl=en

Do you, vsmith, or anyone, have any enlightenment on these two mystery items?  

Thanks,

K.P.

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Posted by MikeF90 on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 2:47 PM

K. P. Harrier
Do you, vsmith, or anyone, have any enlightenment on these two mystery items?

No mystery whatsoever !

The construction near Little Tokyo (Alameda and 1st) is the east portal of the Regional Connector, scheduled for completion in 2021.  The west end will be the current north end of the Blue/Expo lines at 7th/Flower. I've not opened a topic on the RC as all of the construction is below ground, no civilians allowed.

The other construction near the east end of the Red/Purple line subway is expansion of yard tracks. New equipment will be needed for the Purple Line extension west. Metro's fantasy is to accelerate construction to UCLA/Westwood in time for the 2024 Olympics (HAH!); more reason to prefer the 2028 bid.

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Posted by K. P. Harrier on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 4:02 PM

MikeF90 (8-8):

Great, informative info, Mike!  That underground construction so the Blue Line and the Gold Line can connect was suspected, but the hang up for me was that future track arrangement BETWEEN Alameda / 1st and Union Station (Gold Line).   Are they going to build another bridge over the 101 Freeway or tunnel under Union Station with track rearranged north of Union Station?

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Posted by GERALD L MCFARLANE JR on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 5:19 PM

MikeF90

   ~snip~

No need to worry, the plan is for Paris to take 2024 and LA will take 2028.

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Posted by MikeF90 on Wednesday, August 09, 2017 3:19 PM

K. P. Harrier
Are they going to build another bridge over the 101 Freeway or tunnel under Union Station with track rearranged north of Union Station?

Unfortunately, Metro's staff is still infected with rectal-cranial inversion syndrome and decided to use the existing two track bridge and slow, stupid curves by the 101 Freeway and Alameda St.  IMO they should have built a new four track bridge and track directly south to a large radius wye on 1st Street. Plan for future flexibility!

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Posted by K. P. Harrier on Monday, August 14, 2017 2:52 PM

MikeF90 (8-11):

That downtown Alameda and 1st Streets aerial reshown:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Los+Angeles,+CA/@34.0490947,-118.2385629,199m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2c75ddc27da13:0xe22fdf6f254608f4!8m2!3d34.0522342!4d-118.2436849?hl=en

There is a vacant piece of land north of Union Station …

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Los+Angeles,+CA/@34.060746,-118.2345571,398m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2c75ddc27da13:0xe22fdf6f254608f4!8m2!3d34.0522342!4d-118.2436849?hl=en

… possibly where the Gold Line from the north could (“could”) steeply nosedive to tunnel underground to that Alameda and 1st Streets location.

In my opinion, that would keep people away from Union Station trains, and that may be the objective.  Any that wanted to take a Union Station train would have to take an elevator to the trains, and NOT just get off a light rail unit to ‘look around’ at all the Union Station tracks.

Exactly what the rather new, present track (and bridging over the 101 Freeway) from Union Station to Alameda and 1st Streets would be used for thereafter isn’t clear.

It is unknown if any of us have thought of it or not, but the 605 Freeway and nearby river would make an Irwindale-Pico Rivera right-of-way for light rail AND the BNSF.  If the BNSF (with taxpayers money, of course) had a single-track line adjacent the 605 Freeway their Transcon would have a routing option 10 miles SHORTER that their present line through Fullerton and Corona.  Hmmm.  I wonder if THAT is why BNSF’s “Pasadena Sub” (Second District) has NEVER had the ABS signals removed …

Best,

K.P.

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