How safe are Inter-City buses?

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How safe are Inter-City buses?
Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Monday, April 09, 2018 5:17 PM

I ride a Coach USA inter-city style commuter bus alomost every other day so when I saw that a accedent had wiped out half of a hockey team that has me worried about crashwortheyness

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/08/americas/canada-bus-crash/index.html

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Tuesday, April 10, 2018 4:54 PM

When a loaded semi pulls out in front of a bus doing posted highway speed, death results. Period! No bus design can prevent it. The following is online. I have exerped the part I think states the pertinent fact. Not known is whether the truck driver ran the stop sign or if  the truck failed to stop. I havehighlighted (bold) what I think is significant.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-humboldt-broncos-hockey-bus-crash-saskatchewan-explainer/

At the intersection of Highway 35 and Highway 335, about 300 kilometres north of Regina, the bus collided with a tractor-trailer hauling peat moss. Both vehicles were obliterated by the impact. The tractor-trailer driver was unhurt, and was given mental-health assistance after the collision, the RCMP said.

The cause: The RCMP said on the weekend that it was too early to comment on the cause of the collision, or say if any charges would be considered.

The intersection: Dubbed the Armley Corner, the intersection has been the site of a deadly collision before: In the summer of 1997, a couple, their three young daughters and a relative were killed in a crash there. When the Broncos bus passed through the intersection northbound on Hwy. 35, it would have had the right of way; the semi trailer, heading west, would have had a stop sign.

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Posted by PJS1 on Tuesday, April 10, 2018 8:15 PM
According to National Transportation Statistics, Table 2-24, the fatal accident for intercity buses in the U.S. in 2015 – latest data – was .30 per 100 million vehicle miles traveled. The number of injured person was 71 per 100 million vehicle miles traveled, and 420 buses were involved in crashes of varying intensity.
 
As per Table 2-28, the overall fatality rate per 100 million vehicle miles - includes all vehicles - was 1.275.  It was 1.84 on rural roadways and .71 on urban roadways. 
 
According to Table 2-42, the fatality rate per 100 million passenger trains miles in 2015 was 13.9, which was an outlier year for railroad passenger fatalities.  The rate for 2014 was 4.5, and the rate for 2016 was 1.8.  These rates include Amtrak and commuter railroads. 
 
Clearly, traveling by intercity bus, at least in 2015, was as safe or safer than other modes.   

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Posted by NDG on Wednesday, April 11, 2018 2:58 AM
Terrible.

Thank You.

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Posted by runnerdude48 on Friday, April 13, 2018 12:15 PM

PJS1
Clearly, traveling by intercity bus, at least in 2015, was as safe or safer than other modes

 Except of course for commercial airliners.

Interesting that so  many of us feel that traveling by train is so safe when in fact it is the most dangerous form of transportation.

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Posted by PJS1 on Friday, April 13, 2018 7:52 PM

runnerdude48
 PJS1 Clearly, traveling by intercity bus, at least in 2015, was as safe or safer than other modes

Except of course for commercial airliners. 

Depends on how you define commericial airliners. 

Part 121 carriers, which include what most people think of as commercial airliners, i.e. Delta, United, Southwest, etc., had no fatalities in 2015.   

If the commuter airlines, which are commercial air operators under Part 135 - they usually adhere to Part 121 standards, are included in the statistics, the fatality rate in 2015 was 1.98 per 100 million aircraft miles.

I was comparing surface transport modes.  It seems to me that air and sea are different animals.  

If you want to stretch the point, elevators are probably the safest transport mode.  People don't often think of them as transportation, but I racked up thousands of miles - up and down - in elevators over 42 years of working and living in tall buildings.  

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, April 26, 2018 1:52 PM

High winds turned over a bus on Rt. 25 in the Negev at Rotem Junction in Israel's south on Thursday night and 50 passengers were lightly wounded, according to ZAKA, a volunteer emergency immediate response organization. None lost consciousness,. In addition to ZAKA, Magen David Adom emergency medical services arrived, and all received treatment, locally or at a hospital.


Rescue teams evacuated all of the passengers of the bus, which was traveling along Road 25 in the Negev Desert and pummeled by strong winds. 

50 passengers were lightly wounded, according to ZAKA. All passengers were conscious and received medical treatment.. 

From Jerusalem Post article

 

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