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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, December 04, 2017 7:04 AM

The journalist didn’t have his facts straight about FDR and the PCC, but it is a good story for a change.



On Dec 3, 2017, at 9:59 AM, Edward Havens edhavens@gmail.com [SouthernStatesTraction] <SouthernStatesTraction@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

An op-ed column in the EL PASO Times says heritage PCC streetcars will be returning to the west Texas city after an absence of 44 years:Image result for El PAso PCC streetcarsImage result for El PAso PCC streetcars
Realizing our potential: Peter SvarzbeinPeter Svarzbein, Special to the Times 
Published 1:24 p.m. MT Dec. 2, 2017
We often talk about El Paso's authenticity; we celebrate its unique international culture; and we feel pride when the city is represented on a national or international level.
But, when we talk about its reached potential, we fall short. We lament the things we don't have: Six Flags, Disneyland, or even an Ikea, a River Walk bustling with business and tourism like San Antonio. That's where we are wrong. We could build our OWN unique attraction, that is not copying any other city. It's within our grasp.
Downtown is moving in the right direction, escaping some of the worst travesties of 60's urban renewal and is steadily on the rise with new restaurants, hotels, and entertainment.
And, soon, a new historic streetcar line, with very special streetcars will be brought back to life!
Just think, this is our opportunity to celebrate our past while building our future. It will be an amenity to show and share our unique border culture and history with the rest of the world. The streetcar route will be our River Walk.
This is no normal streetcar. El Paso's PCC Streetcar, short for Presidential Conference Car, is the very same model President Franklin Delano Roosevelt approved in 1935.
During the height of the great depression, he wanted Americans to build a streetcar that could run in any city, and thus, the PCC streetcar was born. Our streetcars are older than the famous San Francisco streetcars. And, what’s most unique is that it's the very same streetcar that at one point traveled over 500 times a day between Juárez and El Paso. The renovated streetcars will have new motors, free WiFi, A.C. and heat, with bike racks, and ADA accessibility so every El Pasoan can enjoy the ride.
Let's just realize its potential. According to AARP, Tampa created over 600 million in private investment with a $65 million streetcar line.
Imagine this: You park at the Glory Road Transfer Center on a Saturday afternoon and hop on an historic art-deco PCC Streetcar.
Traveling down Oregon street, the sights of Downtown El Paso and Juárez start to envelop you. There are shops and new residences.
You can stop at the Hal Marcus Gallery, Savage Goods Vegan Bakery & Café, Artspace lofts, before turning left onto Franklin street. Hop off here and walk down to San Jacinto Plaza. There, marvel at some of Henry Trost's most iconic and historic buildings: the Cortez Hotel, the Mills Building, the Plaza Hotel, just to name a few.
Or, maybe just play a game of ping pong at the placita. After Franklin street, the streetcar makes a right on Kansas, passing by Hotel Indigo, Aloft Hotel at the Bassett Tower, City Hall and the County Courthouse (and the Tap, too!).
Next, as you pass over Paisano, the trolley will take you down to one of our most important and vibrant neighborhoods, Segundo Barrio. You can visit Sacred Heart Church, grab a pan dulce at Bowie Bakery and check out the myriad of murals that adorn this proud neighborhood. As the streetcar continues and turns right on Santa Fe, it passes by bustling El Paso street and Paseo De Las Luces. 
Traveling up Santa Fe, our streetcar passes the Children’s Museum, the Museum of Art and Southwest University Park. And this is just a partial list of what the streetcars connects us with. 
Simply put, when someone visits San Antonio and is looking for something to do, they visit the River Walk. It has restaurants, historic sites, museums and shops.
Now, visualize our streetcar route and all the different and unique places and experiences on its route. So, let’s hop on and make it our River Walk.
El Paso is moving along being what it has always been and always will be, the Capital of the Border.
Peter Svarzbein is the West Side city Rep.
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Edward B. Havens

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, December 06, 2017 5:56 PM

Remember seeing those cars stored formany years about 1 mile east of the east west runway of El Paso airport.  Main difference we remember they were painted with a green design ?

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Wednesday, December 06, 2017 10:38 PM

   I remember seeing those "buses on rails" in downtown El Paso back in 1962.   It was the first time I saw PCC cars.


   My mind's made up.   Don't confuse me with the facts.

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Posted by JPS1 on Wednesday, December 06, 2017 10:47 PM

I was in El Paso at the end of October.  The tracks for the streetcar have been laid, and the crews are stringing the wire.  Supposedly the cars will begin operating early in 2018.  

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Posted by alphas on Thursday, December 07, 2017 11:13 PM

I rode them some when I was stationed at Ft. Bliss.     I recall they were pretty crowded whenever I was on them with many of the passengers coming from or going to the border.     Riding them brought back memories of when I was a boy in Philadelphia.

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