Build the Trolley and They Will Come

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Build the Trolley and They Will Come
Posted by seppburgh2 on Saturday, September 02, 2017 2:38 PM

Trolleys are making a comeback and here are some of the reasons why:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/the-real-reason-streetcars-are-making-a-comeback/vi-AAqCS4r

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, September 02, 2017 3:58 PM

Interesting video.  Shows the benefits, but also demonstrates the old adage of "Look before you leap." 

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, September 02, 2017 5:06 PM

Seems like it was made for a segment on Sesame Street or something...conclusion "maybe it's good , maybe it's not, it depends"

Well duh!

Annoying music too, but suppose thats's in the ear of the beholder.

Probably costs plenty to make too! Consultants. Lots of consultants. 

Well for the record I have long tooted that streetcar systems and interurbans should never have gone in the first place...we all really had our act together big time for a long time and foolishly lost it.

Yes, I know the arguments and rationale, hold your fire.  

In the end we allowed it because that is the way society wanted it but we could have had a modern day virtually interconnected system in place had we chose to. 

All in a perfect shiny star world I guess, and Lord knows we are far from that these days. 

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, September 03, 2017 9:32 AM

We can go to Switzerland for a streetcar and interurban paradise with spectacular scenery and good food as well.  Kind of pricey though.

Or live in Dallas or St. Louis or Portland, Or., all of which seem to be on the road to recreating the interurban and streetcar age.

I do have to thank the Eternal for my good fortune to be able to ride Jerusalem light rail any time I wish to, and be confident that the system will expand to allow me to use it for daily commutation.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, September 05, 2017 7:06 AM

Never too old to have a happy childhood!

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Posted by oltmannd on Tuesday, September 05, 2017 8:14 AM

You build transit, you get transit oriented development.  You build highways, you get highway oriented development.  Neither, in and of themselves pay their way.  Pick, and live with the consequences.

-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, September 05, 2017 11:09 AM

Never too old to have a happy childhood!

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, September 06, 2017 4:35 AM

terrific

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Posted by prk166 on Friday, September 22, 2017 7:10 PM

seppburgh2

Trolleys are making a comeback and here are some of the reasons why:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/the-real-reason-streetcars-are-making-a-comeback/vi-AAqCS4r

 

FYI, some urbanistas would have a cow over you using the term trolley.  They have pulled some BS out of thin air and decided that the proper modern term is street car.

As many of us rail fans know, trolley is the modern term coming from the trolley wheel.  Streetcar is a term that goes back when they were just carriages pulled by horses on wood rails down a city street.

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Posted by 54light15 on Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:37 AM

Even though Toronto streetcars use trolley poles, no one calls them trolley cars. But, once the fleet is fully equipped with the new Bombardier cars ( if they ever all get here,) the poles will go away and pantographs will be used. 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Sunday, September 24, 2017 1:15 PM

Don't be surprised if some people want to call them "trams" because that's what the British do.  Quite a few Anglophiles here in the US.

Honestly, I think some of them believe the Declaration of Independence was a mistake, but that's another story.

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, September 24, 2017 2:11 PM

A solution to that problem might be an English Speaking Union.  All countries where English is an official language are Democracies and not ruled by tyrants.  And Israel and India could join, because English is an official language in both Israel and India.  (Israel has Hebew, English, and Arabic as official languages.)  I do not know the current state in Jordan concerning this.  In India, English is an official language along with Hindi, and there may be others.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Sunday, September 24, 2017 2:47 PM

English is also the official international language of aviation.  There's a fun story concerning the same...

Twenty-years-plus ago a Lufthansa pilot was contacting the control tower at Frankfurt Airport, and spoke to them in German.  The tower man responded politely asking him to speak English.

"What for?" asked the German pilot. "I'm a German pilot, in German aircraft, at an airport in Germany!"

Then a British Airways pilot broke in:  "Because you lost the war, old boy!"

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Posted by 54light15 on Monday, September 25, 2017 6:39 PM

Funny how the language of air traffic control is English but the language of the aircraft is French. Nacelle, aileron, longeron, empennage and so forth. 

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