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Honolulu Light Rail
Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:51 PM

Item in today's News Wire about arrival of first two light rail cars arriving in Honolulu last week.  Finished up in Pittsburg, California, and then shipped, apparently from San Diego to the islands.  Several weeks I saw one of the cars on a flatbed trailer coming southbound on CAL-125 in El Cajon, all nicely wrapped up in the Hitachi gift-wrapping.  It looked exactly like one of the pictured on the Hitachi rail website.

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Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Friday, April 1, 2016 11:09 AM

Sorry this is not quilify as  "Light Rail" ist a a "Metro" heavy rail EL train system

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Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Friday, April 1, 2016 11:13 AM

The Honolulu is going to be like a the Baltimore System eventuly with Heavy rail Metro above and below ground and Light Rail streetcars on the street leval.

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Posted by MikeF90 on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 5:08 PM

CandOforprogress2
The Honolulu is going to be like a the Baltimore System eventuly with Heavy rail Metro above and below ground and Light Rail streetcars on the street leval

AFAIK from my recent visit and the HART web site, all stations will be elevated above ground. For such a very crowded area I'm surprised at this design, but the main reason provided for elevated stations was lower cost. Here are some links:

http://www.honolulutransit.org/inform/rail-facts

http://www.honolulutransit.org/ride

It is also surprising that it does not extend into Waikiki, a major tourist and hotel area. As a result, the Ala Moana mall area will be a major bus cluster and even more nightmarish to drive around than today.

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Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Saturday, April 9, 2016 1:12 PM

What about earthquakes and volcanoes? The whole island could blow up like a 1950s B movie.

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Posted by Alan Follett on Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:54 PM

Honolulu does get occasional earthquakes, and these need to be (and no doubt have been) a consideration in engineering HART.  But I wouldn't worry about volcanoes.  Only the Big Island currently has active volcanoes; geologists say that Oahu last saw volcanic activity around 70,000 years ago.  In any event, Hawaiian volcanoes don't produce Hollywood-style explosive eruptions, just gradual lava flows.

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Posted by Alan Follett on Wednesday, April 27, 2016 5:29 PM

Waikiki is two miles long, but only three main streets deep from the beach to the Ala Wai Canal.  My guess is that hotel and business operators would throw a major and well-financed NIMBY-fit at any proposal to run an elevated line along Kalakaua Avenue, Kuhio Avenue, or Ala Wai Boulevard, casting its shadow on the tourists.  (Much like the reason the Las Vegas Monorail doesn't take the logical route down the median of the Strip; but at least in Vegas there was room to hide it away at the back of the east-side hotels.)

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Posted by Dragoman on Wednesday, April 27, 2016 5:44 PM

Alan Follett

... (Much like the reason the Las Vegas Monorail doesn't take the logical route down the median of the Strip; but at least in Vegas there was room to hide it away at the back of the east-side hotels.)

 

But in so doing, it made the Vegas monorail little more that a tourist attraction, and not a terribly useful transit option.

Couldn't HART do some street running through Waikiki?

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, April 28, 2016 6:51 AM

Waikiki is very congested and street running would be incredibly slow.

The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
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Posted by Dragoman on Thursday, April 28, 2016 11:20 AM
And so are the buses. So the trip from Waikiki to Ala Moana might be a wash by comparison. But the opportunity for a one-seat ride to downtown, or even the airport, might be worth the expense.

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