Regarding the goof in the Feb issue giving the Long Beach branch catenary insead of third rail, remember that the LIRR did own catenary. And 0-6-0 AC 25Hz 11000V switcher locomotives. Their catenary was from Fresh Pond Junction to Bay Ridge, and their AC electric switchers switched the NYNH&H freights to and from car floating to PRR Greenville. I believe the car floats were PRR, not NYNH&H, which did have a carfloat operaton from Oak Poin, in the South Bronx. I believe the PRR wire train that served Synnyside was not seen on this line doing repairs, but the NYNH&H wire train was seen, probably billing the LIRR for the service. In steam days, the LIRR local frieght was steam powered, and probably diesel afterward. Alth6ough one of th e0-6-0 switchers could have have been used, but only as far as Fresh Pond Jc., whereas steam and diesel could run to LI City, Jamaica, etc.
From Frach Pond Junction (and from Harold Tower near Sunnyside) across the Hell Gate Bridge to Oak Point, the track and wire were owned by the New York Connecting Raiload, alf PRR owned and half NYNH&H. From Oak Point north it was NYNH&H.
If I'm going to lay out $5.95 for a magazine about a subject the magazine is supposed to be the expert voice then I expect 100% accuracy and integrity. If either is missing then the magazine cannot qualify as being a reliable source of news and information. If one is sloppy or ignorant enough to claim catanary where there is none and the fact checkers or editors don't catch it, then what else in the magazine is not true? Americans have for too long accepted sloppy journalism and have been lied to or otherwise misinformed. For a hobby magazine in which we put our trust in search of history and facts, it is unconscionable to not call to their attention any mistakes or misguidance. It is not nit picking, it is being accurate and truthful and not misleading. And it is why we pay $5.95 each month to read it.
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henry6If I'm going to lay out $5.95 for a magazine about a subject the magazine is supposed to be the expert voice then I expect 100% accuracy and integrity.
What strikes me is that the catenary claim did not need to be made. The article could simply have referred to electric locomotives and let it go at that. To claim something exists which does not in fact exist is a serious mistake. Perhaps there is some reasonable explanation. Let's hope so.
henry6 If I'm going to lay out $5.95 for a magazine about a subject the magazine is supposed to be the expert voice then I expect 100% accuracy and integrity. If either is missing then the magazine cannot qualify as being a reliable source of news and information.
If I'm going to lay out $5.95 for a magazine about a subject the magazine is supposed to be the expert voice then I expect 100% accuracy and integrity. If either is missing then the magazine cannot qualify as being a reliable source of news and information.
FWIW, I posted a note a few months back about a map showing the San Diego Northern RR ending at the San Diego - L.A. County line. Anyone with familiarity with southern California geography knows that SD County and LA county are not contiguous, one has to travel through either Orange County or Riverside County to get from SD county to LA county or vice versa. (This was in the "Corrections column in the latest issue) I would imagine that the map maker was confused by the San Diego county line being the demarcation point between Metrolink and the SDNRR (Coaster) and assuming that Metrolink was only in LA county. FWIW, Metrolink serves LA, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Diego (Oceanside only) and Ventura counties.
I have noticed a drop off in accuracy in what used to be a couple of my favorte magazines, Scientific American and Science News. One simple telling point is what they used for the location of the 200 inch Hale Telescope. Both magazines used to give the correct name of Palomar Mountain, the Scientific American got lazy and stated referring to Mt Palomar instead, followed later by Science News.
- Erik
Yes, and the Editors and many of the writers are some of the first to complain, too. The secondary editing is eliminated either by cost of having someone doing it or because the one doing it is overburdened in the work place. Few instances, very few, are by stupidity of the editors but more affected by the need of meeting the budgets.
erikemthe Scientific American got lazy and stated referring to Mt Palomar instead, followed later by Science News.
Is "Mount Palomar" actually incorrect? Both Palomar Mountain and Mount Palomar seem to be widely used.
Mt Palomar is actually incorrect, much the same way that Grand Central Station is an incorrect name for Grand Central Terminal.
I hate to be a pain in the neck, Erik, or a pain below the neck but:
There in an ambivalence to Grand Central Terminal or Station.
If you are riding to New York on the Hudson, Harlem or New Haven Line you come to the end of the line at Grand Central Terminal. You are at the end of the line. However, if you are on the subway riding the Lexington Avenue Line you get to Grand Central Station and you keep going either uptown or downtown. On the subway it is a station, not a terminal.
On Palomar Mountain I defer to your wisdom.
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