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Quiz: PRW used by both rail and busses

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Quiz: PRW used by both rail and busses
Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, September 2, 2009 3:31 AM

List all the North American locations you positively know where rail and buses share a dedicated right-of-way.   This includes dedicated street lanes without private traffic, separate rights-of-way, tunnels, bridges, etc.

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, September 3, 2009 3:11 AM

For starters, the Seattle "Bus Tunnel" subway, now used also by light rail, and Pittsburgh's Mount Washington transit tunnel.   St. Clair station on the Young Street Subway Line?   I know the St. Clair streetcars have an underground interchange station there.   Does the Rogers and do possibly other bus lines use that interchange station?

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Posted by Kootenay Central on Thursday, September 3, 2009 3:16 PM

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Posted by daveklepper on Friday, September 4, 2009 4:37 AM

So the underground bus and streetcar station on on the University-Shephard route and not on the Young route.  A memory error on my part.   What are the current interchange arrangements at St. Clair and Young?

Also, since you are knowledgeable about Toronto, maybe you can add information about Calgary and/or Edmonton?   PRW sharing light rail and buses?

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 3:18 AM

How many of the articulated cars does Calgary run coupled-mu in one rush-hour train today?   About how many buses go through S. 7th in one direction during one rush hour and how many trains?   Are the buses also articulated or conventional?   Do they all run just on diesel or are any on battery or other fuels?

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Posted by gardendance on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:42 AM

I'm not sure it's appropriate to include Toronto's St Clair West station in the list without also including all other loops that happen to have LRV's and buses. The streetcar private right of way access might be a bit more than 1 block long on each side, and it's a through station for the streetcar, as opposed to a terminal loop, such as plain old St Clair station, and for all I know maybe some of the bus routes go through the station as opposed to terminating. There's at least 1 bus ramp that's separate from the streetcar ramps.

I guess your reasoning for including it is that it's a fairly substantial structure, whereas a regular streetcar end of the line loop shared with a bus line is usually just a convenience store gas station sized parcel.

 In Philadelphia we had poor man's private right of way, we painted a few 'trolley only' lanes on portions of Girard Ave trolley route 15 starting about 30 years ago. One stretch by the zoo also got the benefit of getting raised a few inches abiove the rest of the street lanes. I was stupefied that when they occasionally substituted buses, at one point for about 10 years, the buses for the most part did not use the areas that had been designated 'trolley only'.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:49 AM

YOu are correct as to how I made the distinction.  How about some other answers?  Do any of the bus routes use part of the "neutral ground" used by the restored Canal, New Orleans  streetcars?   Portland?  Shared with either MAX or the streetcar?   Downtown Long Beach, CA?   Houston?    Dallas?   Denver? 

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