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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, October 29, 2019 8:26 AM

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I would hope that CP 6644 will carry the name "Juno Beach".

https://www.junobeach.org/infographics/

 

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Posted by Miningman on Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:13 AM

Thanks for the tribute and the nod Overmod.. greatly appreciated.

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Posted by kgbw49 on Tuesday, October 29, 2019 4:49 PM
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Posted by Miningman on Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:09 AM

Thanks kgbw49 for passing these photos along. Great stuff for those of us still working and time is at a premium. 

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Posted by kgbw49 on Thursday, October 31, 2019 5:56 PM

Miningman, I am glad to do it. It is actually a way to wind down. I too am still working. 60-70 hours per week is the norm.

Plus I like those Dreadnoughts and I hope the whole fleet including the remaining UP locomotives gets rebuilt. Now that the DDA40X units are retired other than 6936, and with the exception of 6396 and 4014, I believe these may be the biggest locomotives on the rails.

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Monday, November 11, 2019 3:35 PM

The paint schemes for those 5 have been unveiled.

http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2019/11/11-canadian-pacific-unveils-five-locomotives-honoring-canadian-armed-forces

Anyone know the significance of some of these? 6644 is obvious, but the others less so. For instance I'm guessing 7022 has some connection with the Royal Canadian Navy judging by the font of the number on the long hood (If so, the gray paint is obvious and the red paint perhaps is taken from the anti-fouling paint below the waterline?).

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Posted by SD70Dude on Monday, November 11, 2019 3:39 PM

I'm sure that this will get its own thread with better quality photos, but in the meantime here are a few shots, and the signs explaining each paint scheme:

 

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Monday, November 11, 2019 3:43 PM

Thanks, that didn't take long to get some explanations. :)

I'm surprised there's not an 1118 here, considering what today is an anniversary of. 

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Posted by M636C on Monday, November 11, 2019 7:21 PM

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Thanks, that didn't take long to get some explanations. :)

I'm surprised there's not an 1118 here, considering what today is an anniversary of. 

 

While 6644 identifies a day, 1118 only identifies the month and 111118 is probably too hard...

I could easily identify what 6644 represented and also 7020 and 7021, but 7022 and 7023 seemed to be a complete mystery until I saw the explanation, even though I knew they had to be Air Force and Navy (if you can use those terms in Canada...)

I was even involved in the purchase of the RAAF F-18s (some of which are being sold to Canada now) and spent the last 16 years in the Royal Australian Navy...

Of course the RAAF didn't use the "side numbers" seen on CAF F-18s (only the serial number) and the italic font was unfamiliar (although I'd seen it on USN F-18s).

My excuse about the "Navy" loco was that the CAF light grey is quite unlike either the old RAN "French Grey" or the current "Haze Grey", the same as the USN, and the RAN also uses the shadowed block numbering seen on USN ships.

It seems strange to put the USA flag on 7022 and 7023, since those colours are basically Canadian, while 7020 and 7021 are standard colours familiar in the USA. They could have painted the left side of 7022 Haze Grey with USN numbering, of course...

I would have thought that 7022 might have had a full colour white ensign on it somewhere rather than the black version of the national flag.

Are Navy and Air Force Flags flown at celebrations in Canada, or only the National Flag? At the Australian War Memorial on Remembrance Day, there were four national flags (the fourth for the Army), the White Ensign and the RAAF flag, a light blue flag with the kangaroo roundel.

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Posted by NDG on Tuesday, November 12, 2019 1:11 AM
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Posted by Leo_Ames on Thursday, November 14, 2019 4:47 PM

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While 6644 identifies a day, 1118 only identifies the month and 111118 is probably too hard...

You do the best you can in the confines you have to work in.

And I was envisioning some context on such a locomotive, including having the date of the Armistice prominently displayed. So I suspect many would see the connection. :)

But even without a #1118, I'm still surprised there's not one specifically for Remembrance Day. But perhaps it was viewed as superfluous with all of Canada's military branches being honored already with this set and the date these were unveiled.

The sole possible exception is the Coast Guard. But I'm not sure if it's setup like it is in the US and I've never heard of the Canadian Coast Guard having been involved with the War in the Atlantic like ours was. So perhaps it doesn't have a significant link to the Canadian military. 

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Posted by SD70Dude on Thursday, November 14, 2019 6:03 PM

Leo_Ames

The sole possible exception is the Coast Guard. But I'm not sure if it's setup like it is in the US and I've never heard of the Canadian Coast Guard having been involved with the War in the Atlantic like ours was. So perhaps it doesn't have a significant link to the Canadian military. 

The modern Canadian Coast Guard was formed in 1962.  Before then the duties it currently performs were split among the Navy, RCMP, the Department of Marine and Fisheries, and the Department of Railways and Canals. 

As such our Coast Guard has not been involved in any wars.  This is not to diminish the fact that its officers perform dangerous and heroic duties in very hazardous conditions.

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Monday, January 20, 2020 2:00 AM

There's been debate on how much was recycled from 1st generation Geeps for CPR's fleet of GP20C-ECO's.

Greg McDonnell's second edition of 'Locomotives' repeats what's been discussed about the truck frames and air compressors being reused, but also says that the main generators and traction motors were refurbished and incorporated into the new ECO units.

So Canadian Railway Observations quite possibly wasn't entirely accurate here, with the greater total of recycled components incorporated into them helping explain why these were able to qualify as rebuilt power even though in reality they're brand new locomotives.

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