NS acquiring 100 of UP's EMD SD9043MAC locomotives

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Posted by kgbw49 on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 12:26 PM

Just one guess - perhaps two-axle trucks are probably optimal for siding and industrial trackage where locals spend a lot of their time. Tight curves, rough track, etc.

A second guess - 2,000 hp locomotives may be more fuel efficient for locals and most yard switching compared to 4,000-4,400 hp locomotives.

 

 

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 2:09 PM

longhorn1969
Thanks, with NS selling the newer SD70Ms, would it not make sense to keep the newer units for that purpose and fully retire the older era locomotives?

Something like this, in a sense, has happened on the ex-Southern in Memphis.  The ex-Forrest Yard intermodal facility (now, I think, called Inman) used to be switched by GP38-2s in the 50xx range, and you'd see these on the peddler running out past Collierville frequently, but I've regularly seen SD-40s (probably of some rebuilt subclass or another) doing this work, and more recently all I see is relatively early single GE 4400hp units.

I think it depends largely on intended use; a railroad like NS is likely to have many places that use relatively small power.

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Posted by beaulieu on Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:57 PM

longhorn1969

 

 
 

 

 

 Thanks, with NS selling the newer SD70Ms, would it not make sense to keep the newer units for that purpose and fully retire the older era locomotives?

Just strange, very strange.

 

 

The GP38-2s are more nimble and weigh less. Much industrial trackage has older lighter weight rail. In addition switching service requires tractive effort, but not much horsepower. 

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Posted by beaulieu on Thursday, February 13, 2020 1:00 PM

The first two of the 2020 order for SD70ACU rebuilds from Progress Rail have now arrived on the property, number 7030 and 7032.

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Posted by kgbw49 on Friday, February 14, 2020 1:19 PM

I seem to recall an interview several years ago with Hunter Harrison when he was still at CP. if I recall correctly, the interviewer asked him about locomotive acquisitions and his reply was to the effect that no new locomotives would likely be purchased for something like five years but that the SD9043MACs could be rebuilt into a good locomotive at the time when they would be needed.

If NS is continuing to finish conversion of their inventory that would seem to indicate the SD70ACUs are perfoming satisfactorially for them.

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Posted by NorthWest on Friday, February 14, 2020 4:39 PM

Those are CP.

NS 7030 is an SD60E.

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Posted by kgbw49 on Friday, February 14, 2020 11:54 PM

My bad. Got them crossed up with the NS 7230s.

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Monday, February 17, 2020 6:34 PM

AltoonaWorks is reporting that Canadian Pacific has bought six SD80MAC's for parts.

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Posted by NorthWest on Monday, February 17, 2020 8:14 PM

Interesting.

More UP SD90MACs would've been cheaper?

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Posted by kgbw49 on Monday, February 17, 2020 10:13 PM

Once CP finishes taking delivery of its 60th SD70ACU, it is possible there just might be a larger number of that model on Class I railroads than there are of the SD70ACE-T4 model.

That is not a negative comment of the SD70ACE-T4. It is just a thought related to how PSR has dropped demand for new locomotives and how the fuel economy reported for Tier 4 models has not helped drive demand for them.

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Thursday, February 20, 2020 3:38 PM

NSDash9 reports that Progress Rail bought the rest of the SD80MAC's.

https://www.facebook.com/nsdash9/posts/10157324946918843

They also bought the SD70's that were for sale (And NS has now placed up for sale the three SD70's that weren't listed for sale this last time).

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