Trains.com

Locomotive performance China - Tibet

1579 views
4 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    December 2007
  • From: Georgia USA SW of Atlanta
  • 11,919 posts
Locomotive performance China - Tibet
Posted by blue streak 1 on Sunday, May 18, 2008 7:21 PM
Has anyone heard how the high altitude locomotives perform on this route from Qinghai area over Kunlun mountain pass (15640 ft) to over the border at Tanggula pass (16640 ft) to Lahsa tibet approximately 800 miles? Are the locos GE and what model derivation, how they are turbo charged, their HP output at those altitudes and how they cool the loco and traction motors. 
  • Member since
    October 2007
  • 56 posts
Posted by crpulse on Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:28 PM
I believe the GE model type is C38AChe. The he is for high elevation. Don't know what the mods are for the high altitude running.
  • Member since
    October 2007
  • From: iron ridge
  • 204 posts
Posted by wisandsouthernkid on Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:31 PM
i would imagine the way that they would do that would be to take thge blowerrs or the turbos and make them produce more boost because that wouyld keep the horse power the same by pressurising the air more
the happiest people in the world dont have the best of everything, but make the best out of everything they have
  • Member since
    January 2001
  • From: Atlanta
  • 11,971 posts
Posted by oltmannd on Friday, May 23, 2008 12:44 PM

 crpulse wrote:
I believe the GE model type is C38AChe. The he is for high elevation. Don't know what the mods are for the high altitude running.

It's probably the design of the turbo compressor. If you try to maintain too large a pressure differential over the compressor, it'll stall - i.e. stop taking a "bite" out of the air on the inlet side.  This unloads the turbine and turbo speed will increase.  The air in the manifold will rush backwards through the compressor, the engine will starve for air, the turbo speed drops, the engine over fuels and belches black smoke.  The compressor gets a bite and starts working again and things stabilize - until the pressure differential gets too high again..

 You can tell if a locomotive is in this condition because you'll hear the turbo "run away" and then see some black smoke - this cycle repeating every minute or so.

-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/

  • Member since
    December 2006
  • From: Michigan City, In.
  • 781 posts
Posted by spikejones52002 on Saturday, May 24, 2008 6:59 PM
There has been several accidents on the line already. Several people were killed.

Join our Community!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

Search the Community

Newsletter Sign-Up

By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy