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The Classical Locomotive (Legend)

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The Classical Locomotive (Legend)
Posted by Awesome! on Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:02 PM

http://www.locophotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=86120

I wish they were more of this warbonet colors...My 2 cents [2c]

 

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, April 21, 2008 6:53 AM

For those who are lamenting the passing of locomotives in Santa Fe's colors, one can always go to Long Beach and watch Pacific Harbor Line locomotives.

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Monday, April 21, 2008 3:44 PM
If that engine gets any dirtier the UP unit will be jealous...
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Posted by J. Edgar on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 1:06 PM

 trainfan1221 wrote:
If that engine gets any dirtier the UP unit will be jealous...

 

Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:45 PM
 trainfan1221 wrote:
If that engine gets any dirtier the UP unit will be jealous...
The engine actually looks fairly clean....the paint has badly faded....looks like most of the early to mid 90's automobiles.

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Posted by YoHo1975 on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:09 PM
It's bad paint from GE, a bunch of the GE warbonnets and H2s got bum paint jobs in the 90s. That's part of the reason you now see a lot of engines go out in primer. GE would rather do that than have to put up with this kinda junk paint from trying to do it quick.
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Posted by Awesome! on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 5:52 PM
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Posted by espeefoamer on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:08 PM
Looking good,like a Warbonnet should!
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Posted by Awesome! on Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:54 PM
I wish they would drop the BN letters and keep it "Sante Fe" simple.
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Posted by oltmannd on Monday, April 28, 2008 6:42 AM

 YoHo1975 wrote:
It's bad paint from GE, a bunch of the GE warbonnets and H2s got bum paint jobs in the 90s. That's part of the reason you now see a lot of engines go out in primer. GE would rather do that than have to put up with this kinda junk paint from trying to do it quick.

It isn't the paint job so much as the paint pigment.  It's all urethane, but some pigments are  more long-lived than others.  Apparently, GE went with "brand X" instead of genuine Dupont Imron.  The Conrail blue GE used faded to a chalky light blue in short order, too.

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Posted by YoHo1975 on Monday, April 28, 2008 11:31 AM
 oltmannd wrote:

 YoHo1975 wrote:
It's bad paint from GE, a bunch of the GE warbonnets and H2s got bum paint jobs in the 90s. That's part of the reason you now see a lot of engines go out in primer. GE would rather do that than have to put up with this kinda junk paint from trying to do it quick.

It isn't the paint job so much as the paint pigment.  It's all urethane, but some pigments are  more long-lived than others.  Apparently, GE went with "brand X" instead of genuine Dupont Imron.  The Conrail blue GE used faded to a chalky light blue in short order, too.

 

I've actually heard the whole story on this (I don't have permission to tell the whole story), and yeah, they sure didn't use Dupont. It's more complex then just the pigment though, and GE intended to go with Dupont. Needless to say, the mistake cost them a heck of a lot of money. 

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, April 28, 2008 12:21 PM
Ya that engine does look pretty washed out colorwise. I see Santa Fe / BNSF warbonnet units pretty often here in MN and they look a lot better than that!!
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Posted by cnwfan51 on Monday, May 5, 2008 9:17 AM
   I still think the warbonnet looks better on an F7 or E locomotive
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Posted by Awesome! on Monday, May 5, 2008 7:54 PM

 cnwfan51 wrote:
   I still think the warbonnet looks better on an F7 or E locomotive

F-7 ORIGINAL

FP-45

i LOVE IT!

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Posted by YoHo1975 on Monday, May 5, 2008 8:17 PM

Actually that's an FP45 with the 20 Cylinder 3600HP 645 like the SD45. P, because it's longer and had Steam generators. Those had been removed by the time of that photo.

 

Personally, I've always been a fan of the early phase F3 with the taller fans.

 

Probably because I remember them from the miniature train rides of my youth.

 

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Posted by Awesome! on Monday, May 5, 2008 8:35 PM
 YoHo1975 wrote:

Actually that's an FP45 with the 20 Cylinder 3600HP 645 like the SD45. P, because it's longer and had Steam generators. Those had been removed by the time of that photo.

 

Personally, I've always been a fan of the early phase F3 with the taller fans.

 

Probably because I remember them from the miniature train rides of my youth.

 

Thank you for the correction! I made the changes... I really enjoy the classical warbonets.

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Posted by route_rock on Tuesday, May 6, 2008 12:37 AM

  Well 561 is a dog!! I ran it on the longmont RS the other day,we had to cut off the second unit so it could go to town to get its toilet dumped ( this only took a month of complaining to get done so I was impresed)So here this poor old girl was forced to switch the yard on a slight uphil grade.Notch 8 lead axle sand and manual sand wide open and I was getting 1 mphafter a few minutes 3 mph.Once she got to 7 mph I had to shut her down some as the 5 minutes was about to expire on the short time ratings.

  The interior is just as bad as the exterior.But I did scare the bejezzus out of a golfer who was trying to tee off when I blew for a grade crossing.I thought he was seriously going to thorw his club at me.

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Posted by YoHo1975 on Tuesday, May 6, 2008 12:50 AM
My impression has been that, because they're slow loaders, GEs regardless of vintage and toilet condition are not particularly relished for switching maneuvers anyway.
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Posted by route_rock on Tuesday, May 6, 2008 2:31 PM

  Yes sir Yoho you are correct! But you gotta use what you got and for some reason they have kept 561 up there on the switcher.

  I prefer old geeps,or even better 40-2's, I had to switch with a SD70ACe one evening. Not fun.

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Posted by YoHo1975 on Tuesday, May 6, 2008 5:23 PM

Where are you out of?

Up at New Fallbrook Yard near Oceanside Ca, they seem to have a trio with typically 8-40Bs, GP60Ms and GP30/35/39Ms around. The GEs have been showing up more and more though which I've found kind of odd. 

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Posted by route_rock on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:08 PM

  On the old C&S out of Denver. 155 is now hooked up with 561 and the turn has two SD 60's  I have been in Cheyenne  since monday. Yesterday we did a Platte River coal train.today we are waiting for Maintenece in the Way to get out of the way so we can go!!!

  And wouldnt you know it on a speed restricted train lol.

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