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<p>This reminds of an experience on my first visit to the USA in the late 1970s. We talked with two fishers at a lake in Colorado about our rental car, a Buick. It was a nice car but when we traveled a gravel road with a few serpentine I would have prefered my own car with independent wheel suspension. When I mentioned it the "audience" was over.</p> <p>I brought up being a German for others to better understand the shortcoming of my English. If you hadn't known would have accepted? Weird.</p> <p>[quote user="Paul Milenkovic"]You brought up being German and how everyone in Germany "accepts Climate Change" whereas not everyone in the U.S. does, with a whole chain of implications and insinuations that follows from that,[/quote]</p> <p>There is climate change there always has been. We think a significant part is man-made and should be reduced. Many Americans do too, many Amercans don't. What you make of a simple statement is up to you.</p> <p>[quote user="Paul Milenkovic"] Perhaps there is a social-cultural-traditional difference on Free Speech, the First Amendment, lawful protest, and expression of grievances? [/quote]</p> <p>There might be differences. Here the free speach or the freedom of art are held very high though they are limited by laws. When personal dispraise or insult come into play the border might be crossed. But that is a fine line so often courts have to act.</p> <p>[quote user="Paul Milenkovic"]Being German and the fact that Germany has less strict regulations has everthing to do that you have "no skin in this game" regarding the problems that a truck driver in the U.S. has to stay in business. [/quote]</p> <p>To set things straight, we talked about cars (VW), when I talked about our lower emission limits. I have looked up the truck emession limits of Euro VI since 2013:</p> <p>CO:1.1 g/hph; THC:0.10 g/hph; NOx: 0.30 g/hpH; NM3: 10 ppm, PM: 0.08 g/hph</p> <p>It seems quite close to current EPA standards. Differences might come different prioritiey in the conflict of aimes between NOx and CO.[quote user="Paul Milenkovic"]Being German has to do with the strict regulations in the U.S. leading to billions of dollars being transfered from your fellow citizens to the U.S. Treasury, collective punishment against German stock holders and German workers.[/quote]</p> <p>We seem to have a very different legal understanding. When going on a foreign market you play to their rules and laws. You don't like it stay away.</p> <p>The German engineers didn't develop the fraud software for sport. And no the EPA didn't have backs to the wall. The problem was a company culture of fear. The engineers didn't dare to confess that they were not able to meet the EPA standard in the given time and cost frame and without use of SCR.</p> <p>Going to jail is never a good thing but there are laws aren't they?</p> <p>Sure there are trade-offs and economic costs. But as I said before it is a political decision how to wheigh costs against health benefits. I looked into the final rule of the Clean Power Plan. And there EPA just did this. I wanted to link it here but all links to the CPP are cut. The individual values are disputable for sure. </p> <p>In Germany agreements as you describe never worked only government regulations. Those who were askes do to something volontarily always feared commercial disadvantages as other might not follow.</p> <p>I personally think the rules should be as strict as technically feasible. And that might change over time. In the first step Europe should adjust the light vehicle rules to the truck rules. I have too many friends here with lung deseases from long exposure to industry, car, and truck exhaust over a long time to ignore the health implications.<br />Regards, Volker</p> <p> </p>
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