BaltACDGE ES DC engines are approaching or have already past the 10 year mark so rebuilding is not that far into the future.
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With all the AC engines CSX had purchased I was surprised when they bought so man ES44DC's. To my ground level, not board level mind - it didn't make much sense, though it may have made cents.
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My thought about surplus DC parts was especially traction motors. What are the different DC traction motor models that are being replaced by AC?
BaltACDWith all the AC engines CSX had purchased I was surprised when they bought so man ES44DC's. To my ground level, not board level mind - it didn't make much sense, though it may have made cents.
blue streak 1My thought about surplus DC parts was especially traction motors. What are the different DC traction motor models that are being replaced by AC?
D.Carleton Leo_Ames They did anticipate merger efficiencies and reactivating stored power pushing out the need for new acquisitions for several years (along with presumably the need for putting the ex UP SD90's through the ACU program anytime soon). Supposedly CP had picked up maybe 40 SD9043s from UP a couple of years ago. Outside of one report the story goes cold. Do you have any more intel?
Leo_Ames They did anticipate merger efficiencies and reactivating stored power pushing out the need for new acquisitions for several years (along with presumably the need for putting the ex UP SD90's through the ACU program anytime soon).
Supposedly CP had picked up maybe 40 SD9043s from UP a couple of years ago. Outside of one report the story goes cold. Do you have any more intel?
Rumor mill is saying that more CPR SD70ACU's are planned for 2024.
Leo_Ames Rumor mill is saying that more CPR SD70ACU's are planned for 2024.
My money would be on the SD90MAC/SD70ACU conversion .
The word on the street I hear is that the Dash 9/AC4400 type conversions sometimes don't go so well . Particularly if the later cabs are fitted non isolated .
"SD70ACU" has the best of the 70ACe internals and isolated cab - plus the bigger traction motors and fuel tank of the 90MAC .
Looks like CPKC has given up on further SD90 rebuilds: https://youtu.be/uj2awjWoApc?si=vwFWGXs693UodC63
Yeah, they've been heading south not for rebuild but for component recovery and scrapping. I do wonder about those Norfolk Southern SD70ACU cast offs and if they still might not figure into CPR/KCS plans down the road when they go locomotive shopping. If Progress Rail has held on to them, the job is halfway done to prepare them for service where as CPR/KCS would've been starting from step 1 with what they're now scrapping.
They only need the heavy mechanical overhaul (and chasing some gremlins) that NS deferred to get them online quickly, in order to turn them into fully rebuilt SD70ACU's. Where as what's being scrapped now not only is high mileage and in need of a full mechanical overhaul, but also would've needed the ACU conversion to also be performed (new cab, new electrical system, new inverters, etc.).
Leo_AmesThey only need the heavy mechanical overhaul...
Of note: The first of 25 former BNSF Dash-9s have been rebuilt into AC44C6Ms for and delivered to NS. Although built after the merger they were done to ATSF specs so, in a broad way, a piece of the Santa Fe will power the Thoroughbred.
Has anything been done to fit isolated cabs to these Dash 9 AC rebuilds .
They do get new cabs during rebuilding (not all GE rebuilds have done so, such as UP's earlier orders for modernized GE's).
I don't know the particulars of GE's design, but it's the equivalent of whatever they're doing with new production like ET44AC's.
Wait, if they are getting new cabs, then they are presumably NOT getting the Gull wings...and are therefore not to ATSF specs anymore.
One can see this by the way on the NSDash9 Facebook page. He has a picture up of four new AC44C6M's, including two of the three BNSF units delivered so far. No gull wings anymore.
Do the ET44ACs have isolated cabs or isolated engine/alternator ?
YoHo1975Wait, if they are getting new cabs, then they are presumably NOT getting the Gull wings...and are therefore not to ATSF specs anymore.
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