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Diesel wheel arrangement
Posted by cessna 310 on Monday, February 10, 2020 8:25 AM

I was consulting a copy of The Second Diesel Spotter's Guide, to explain the wheel arrangements of certain locomotives, to hopefully a new railfan. I came upon an odd picture of what appeared to be an EMD loco with an A1A-3 configuration and could not show my granddaughter an example of this wheel arrangement.

Can anyone give me a example of this type?

 

 

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, February 10, 2020 8:50 AM

cessna 310
I was consulting a copy of The Second Diesel Spotter's Guide, to explain the wheel arrangements of certain locomotives, to hopefully a new railfan. I came upon an odd picture of what appeared to be an EMD loco with an A1A-3 configuration and could not show my granddaughter an example of this wheel arrangement.

Can anyone give me a example of this type?

An A1A-3 is basically a motor car: it has one standard "Blomberg" truck in the front, and an unpowered three-axle truck in the rear.  Only two traction motors; correspondingly low (switcher-size) diesel engine power (1000hp or less).  The back end (where a second engine in a contemporary 'passenger locomotive' would be) is usually set up as a baggage car or 'non-revenue-passenger-carrying' space, unlike the situation in a typical EMD gas-electric car.  To my knowledge, none was ever used as RPO space (Seaboard had a couple of motor-trains-on-steroids that had them).

The 'famous' version of this was Missouri Pacific AA 7100 (from 1940).  We had a thread about this in 2017.  Here's a later picture:

https://nebula.wsimg.com/935639dadc92413ab3366f02cc4b7e12?AccessKeyId=5CF08DE3AA6646FE752D&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

The AB6 used for the Rock Island Colorado Springs connection was originally built this way, too, but acquired a second engine and power truck to make it the equivalent of a full E6B.

There were other motorcars set up with this or similar wheel arrangement, I believe including a couple on Milwaukee with FM opposed-piston diesel engines and C&NW Baldwin 5000A.  See also CB&Q 9908, which has an A-1-A power truck but only a two-axle truck in back.

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Posted by cessna 310 on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:27 AM
The picture in the guide was of an E unit silhouette. I did not know that the Rock B unit was originally powered by just one 567! Thanks for the information.
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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 8:10 AM

cessna 310
The picture in the guide was of an E unit silhouette.

Likely an intentional piece of design 'marketing' -- the passengers would think the train had a full 'streamlined locomotive' on the front (together with the new Budd cars) rather than it being a cheaper 'motor train' approach.

The orignial AB6 was scaled to a particular size for the Colorado Springs connection.  When that increased enough to justify more power, the very logical thing was to install the equipment for a full E6 mechanically, and use either a full baggage car or combine. 

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