return of ''B'" UNITS ?

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

I believe that the picture of which you're thinking was a modified F3B on Haysi RR which the switcher for a mine tipple.  It may have had a full control stand instead of hostler's controls.

[Deggesty]

CSSHEGEWISCH

I believe that the picture of which you're thinking was a modified F3B on Haysi RR which the switcher for a mine tipple.  It may have had a full control stand instead of hostler's controls.

 

I do not remember the details, but the caption indicated that the engine had controls for hostling.

[Overmod]

Deggesty

CSSHEGEWISCH

I believe that the picture of which you're thinking was a modified F3B on Haysi RR which the switcher for a mine tipple.  It may have had a full control stand instead of hostler's controls. 

I do not remember the details, but the caption indicated that the engine had controls for hostling.

 

This would be the famous Haysi 1 (I believe ex-Clinchfield 852, NOT previously run as one of the dark-green 'baggage cars' with Clinchfield 4-6-0#1 as covered in Trains nearly 50 years ago! -- those I think had their portholes fully deleted) which looked like this with its control 'conversion':

 

 

This had a full AAR control stand (I believe I posted an 'inside' picture of it in one of our periodic threads on this topic) but you will notice it's on the 'conductor's' side of the locomotive.  I'm given to understand that at one point this was also given RCO gear and operated with the 'other' end leading (there is a footboard if someone is nuts enough to ride a move).  Note that in an earlier picture there was a bell provided above the large window:

 

 

 

The 'Haysi Railroad' was completed relatively very late (February of 1970) and is only about 5.7 miles long, but served a number of then-lucrative mines.  

 

There were other F units which had 'something more' than just another porthole on the side: see this CB&Q picture, which has notes explaining some of the detail. 

 

 

[guetem1]

I saw a Santa Fe GP-60 b unit at Queensgate yard in Cincinnati, I was the only one in the tower who could identify it. Santa Fe bought a few when they were hanging GP-60's on Z trains in the early 90's. The idea was they were cheaper than an SD, it might take them a little longer to get up to speed, but they could maintain it once they got there, back then Z trains were seldom more than 5,000 feet and under 4,000 tons so they didn't need the extra tractive effort that a 6 axle unit could provide

[Deggesty]

Haysi RR power? I do not think this was what I saw; as I remember, it was in an issue in the fifties, and the hostler looked through a porthole window.

[SD60MAC9500]

 

 

[BEAUSABRE]

ATSF's FTB's with couplers on both ends (not ones with drawbars) had hostler control and an extra porthole towards the end of the carbody on the engineman's side only. See second photo showing unit #100A http://old.atsfrr.org/resources/Brasher/FTs%20without%20drawbars.pdf 

 https://www.modeltrainforum.com/threads/emd-ft-b-unit-five-portholes-on-one-of-its-sides.177894/

I'm not sure about other railroads

[Paul Milenkovic]

See the video of the man going into the electrical cabinet, all I can think of is a voice with affected calmness saying,

"Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over."