us railroads that operated in Canada

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us railroads that operated in Canada
Posted by NP Eddie on Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:02 PM

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This question is about US railroads that operated in Canada. I do know that the Great Northern purchased three switch engines from GM Canada for use at Vancouver, BC. Were the switch engines and road units that operated on the MC (NYC) and Wabash/NW also purchased in Canada? As information, the GN paid duty on about six or eight Geep's and three cabooses to run from Seattle to Vancouver. Did I miss any other railroads?

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Posted by kgbw49 on Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:14 PM

For quite some time the Toronto, Hamilton & Buffalo was co-owned by Canadian Pacific and New York Central. It operated a couple of "very-Central-looking" Hudson 4-6-4s and also operated a couple of "what-an-NYC-Berksire-would-have-looked-like" 2-8-4s.

 

A TH&B Hudson:

http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/non-nyc/images/th&b-502.jpg

http://media.zuza.com/1/a/1a33f2e8-bbe0-4ee8-93cc-77e666b66510/B821871057Z.1_20150219181548_000_GH11E5L6B.2_Gallery.jpg

A TH&B Berkshire:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f1/d2/9e/f1d29eecb87176581b74cd9b35e62c76.jpg

http://www.nfrm.ca/images_galleries/images_thb/thb201MontroseRdthmb.jpg

 

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Posted by Miningman on Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:48 PM

These were all built in Canada, along with one Wabash GP7. When people say N&W did not have  F Units you can tell 'em 'balderdash' these were painted into N&W colours. Posted a picture of those on the Quiz over at Classic a while back.

664 part of 20 unit order F7A built as 1155, 1155A to 1164, 1164A 
(A125 - A144 11/1950 - 3/1951) this was C-106 the sixth order for GMD. 

670 part of 20 unit order 657-676

Also check out 'A Geeps Tale" on Classic Trains, go back one page . We did a lot on there on this subject.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Tuesday, April 03, 2018 8:11 PM

C&O/PM also operated thru the southern Ontario short-cut. 

There were D&H trains to Montreal.

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Posted by kgbw49 on Wednesday, April 04, 2018 6:42 AM

New York Central also had a line to Montreal coming up the south side of Lake Ontario. CSX still operates it for now.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Wednesday, April 04, 2018 8:37 PM

NYC also had a line to Ottawa.  Maine Central had a line up into Quebec north of Beecher Falls, VT., and another line that wandered over the New Brunswick border.

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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, April 05, 2018 10:37 AM

Delaware & Hudson, Boston & Maine, MEC, Penn Central (NYC), Chessie System, Conrail, Wabash. Montreal, Maine & Atlantic.. 

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Posted by CPRcst on Thursday, April 05, 2018 1:41 PM

BNSF (BNSF Manitoba Ltd) still operates a one unit switcher and has a small yard in Winnipeg. CN handles their traffic to the parent at Emerson / Noyes. 

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Posted by NP Eddie on Thursday, April 05, 2018 6:08 PM

What is the number of the BNSF ML unit in Winnipeg? Was is built in Canada?

Miningman, yes the NW did have cab units, but they were on the rosters of the Wabash and NKP. Before those mergers, the NW did not have cab units.

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Posted by Miningman on Thursday, April 05, 2018 6:56 PM

That is correct.

Norfolk and Western 

Norfolk and Western acquired the Wabash in a 1964 complex merger that included three other US roads. 
Another three US roads were also merged and then in 1982 Southern was merged to form Norfolk Southern. 
In 2011 NS ended the old Wabash perpetual running rights due in a large part to a loss of traffic. 
CN insisted NS continue to operate across the border at Fort Erie to perform interchange. 

NW 3453 ex Wabash 453 GMD A148 1/1951 Only road switcher built for Canadian service. 

CN diesel shop Fort Erie. N&W 3657 first unit of a 20 unit order. ex Wabash 657 nee 1155.
GMD A125 November 1950

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Posted by traisessive1 on Friday, April 13, 2018 9:20 PM

NP Eddie

What is the number of the BNSF ML unit in Winnipeg? Was is built in Canada?

 

 
Whatever engine BNSF sends up there from Grand Forks. 
 
The Great Northern and the Northern Pacific had lines into Brandon and Portage la Prairie in Manitoba as well as the line into Winnipeg (the reason BNSF has a job in Winnipeg still).

10000 feet and no dynamics? Today is going to be a good day ... 

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Saturday, April 14, 2018 6:51 AM

BNSF of Manitoba (formerly Midland Ry of Manitoba as a joint GN/NP subsidiary) did have its own GP9.  I believe that it was built in London.

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Posted by traisessive1 on Tuesday, April 17, 2018 5:35 PM

That GP9 is now at the Prairie Dog Central.

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Posted by GT Mills on Tuesday, April 17, 2018 8:32 PM

There is a map of the Pere Marquette system, which crosses from Michigan into Ontario at Port Huron and Detroit, MI,  then crosses back over to the US at two river crossings into Buffalo, NY.  I believe the Pere Marquette RR acquired the Canadian route in January 1903.  C&O finally swallowed PM in 1947, so I don't think they had any service into Canada prior to that.  I can't seem to upload the map for you here.  The Pere Marquette started out as the Flint & Pere Marquette, with service from Bay City, MI to Flint opened in January 1862.  

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