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Paint it black
Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:53 PM

     This month's issue of Trains Magazine shows some CP locomotives that have been repainted candy-apple red color. Some had been rebuilt, and some just needed repainting. I know that some railroads have paint schemes with black paint where a locomotive will get the grubbiest. Are there certain colors that wear better, or cost less to apply? Is anything like that taken into account when a railroad picks a paint scheme, or is it all about image?

      It seems like painting a locomotive candy-apple red is just asking for a future Pink Panther. I recall reading that the reason Henry Ford painted model T's black was because black paint dried faster.

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:58 PM

Black gets ratty fast - just look a Penn Central.

         

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:08 PM

But NS is mostly black..........

I see a lot of BNSF locomotives that are black from about the walkway down. I just always assumed that was to hide grime.

What was the color PRR used on passenger cars to hide road grime? Brunswick Green or Pullman Green?

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Posted by SD70M-2Dude on Friday, September 01, 2017 1:18 AM

Murphy Siding

What was the color PRR used on passenger cars to hide road grime? Brunswick Green or Pullman Green?

Brunswick Green:  50 parts black to 1 part green.

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Posted by ericsp on Friday, September 01, 2017 2:02 AM

SP painted it locomotives with soot. It looks like UP is experimenting with that.

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Posted by VOLKER LANDWEHR on Friday, September 01, 2017 4:15 AM

Murphy Siding
I see a lot of BNSF locomotives that are black from about the walkway down. I just always assumed that was to hide grime.

I think BNSF has the black running gear only on their new first paint scheme. All later schemes have aluminum paint instead of black. It might be more for design considerations.

I think it was Santa Fe that cleaned the silver trucks of locomotives on their premier trains at the end points.

Black trucks weather as fast as silver ones: http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceout.gif

http://ewebcarpenters.com/beta/cro/RESTRICTED/2015/August/images/south/BNSF%20647%20RICHARD%20CHASE.jpg

BNSF 647 (Dash 9-44CW) was built in 1994 and photographed in 2015 still in her first paint coat.
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Posted by NorthWest on Friday, September 01, 2017 10:20 AM

Paint technology has improved to the point that paint colors offer about the same resistance to dirt and wear. Note the KCS scheme which has several colors and is wearing well as well as the fading warbonnets still flying the ATSF flag.

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Posted by kgbw49 on Friday, September 01, 2017 8:03 PM
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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, September 04, 2017 8:16 AM

[quote user="SD70M-2Dude" above]

As far as I know.Brunzwick Green was a PRR paint for locomotives, not for the running gear of passenger equipment which was regular black.  And the car body itself Tuscan Red with lettering and any striping gold.

 

 
Murphy Siding

What was the color PRR used on passenger cars to hide road grime? Brunswick Green or Pullman Green?

 

 

Brunswick Green:  50 parts black to 1 part green.

 

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Murphy Siding

What was the color PRR used on passenger cars to hide road grime? Brunswick Green or Pullman Green?

 

 

Brunswick Green:  50 parts black to 1 part green.

 

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Posted by kgbw49 on Monday, September 04, 2017 5:50 PM

Brunswick Green represented here, I think:

https://prrt1steamlocomotivetrust.org/station/

 

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, September 25, 2017 8:50 AM

You will probably find much more discussion of 'Brunswick Green' under its more-or-less official PRR name, "Dark Green Locomotive Enamel", commonly abbreviated by PRR cognoscenti to just "DGLE"

There are both color sample chips and pretty good Pantone equivalents available, and at least at one time there were Web pages with mixing formulae for (alas! now largely-departed!) brands of model paint.

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