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What is the acronym ET on the new BNSF on their new ET44C4?

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What is the acronym ET on the new BNSF on their new ET44C4?
Posted by MKT_BA_OK on Sunday, July 19, 2015 9:37 PM

I wondering................. what the acronym ET means for BNSF on their new ET44C4?

 

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Posted by NorthWest on Monday, July 20, 2015 12:03 PM

The 'E' probably still stands for 'Evolution', as in 'Evolution Series'.

My best guess is that the 'T' stands for "Tier IV' as these locomotives are substantially different from earlier locomotives.

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Posted by carnej1 on Monday, July 20, 2015 12:16 PM

I believe that the T stands for "Trains readers will be confused"; clearly it's an attempt to bufuddle railfans and spark debate about what the proper naming convention for the units should be ...

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Posted by ricktrains4824 on Monday, July 20, 2015 12:40 PM

carnej1

I believe that the T stands for "Trains readers will be confused"; clearly it's an attempt to bufuddle railfans and spark debate about what the proper naming convention for the units should be ...

 

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Posted by GDRMCo on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 4:09 AM
Evolution Tier 4

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Posted by M636C on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 6:38 AM

GDRMCo
Evolution Tier 4
 

 

"ES" stood for "Evolution Series"

"ET" probably stands for "Evolution Tier 4" but has the advantage for the tidy mind that "T" follows "S" alphabetically and need not stand for anything...

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Posted by MKT_BA_OK on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 9:37 AM

Received this from BNSF Media Dept. this morning....................

 

The following inquiry was submitted to BNSF Railway Media Center on
07/20/15
20:14 (1589054):
From : Clint Stewart (clints)
Date : 07/21/15
08:53

Hello Frank,

The best information I have found is E=
Evolution Series and T= Tier 4.
 I hope this information
helps.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

From
: Frank Swafford
Date : 07/20/15 20:14

Good Day,
I
wondering................. what the acronym ET mean for BNSF on your
new
General Electric ET44C4 diesel locomotives?

Regards,
Frank
Swafford

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Posted by LensCapOn on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:02 PM

ET = Extra Tall.

 

 

 

 

 

I'll just leave now....

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Posted by John Liebson on Wednesday, July 22, 2015 1:12 PM

Pedantic entry:

1 Acronym: "a word created from the first letters of each word in a series of words." `ET' would only be an acronym if pronounced as though it were the Latin word "and."

2. Abbreviation: "a shortened form esp. of a word or phrase"; in this case, I submit that "ET" is an abbreviation.

The misuse of acronym is very common.

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Posted by Wizlish on Wednesday, July 22, 2015 3:08 PM

John Liebson
Pedantic entry:

1 Acronym: "a word created from the first letters of each word in a series of words." `ET' would only be an acronym if pronounced as though it were the Latin word "and."

2. Abbreviation: "a shortened form esp. of a word or phrase"; in this case, I submit that "ET" is an abbreviation.

The misuse of acronym is very common.

Even more pedantic observation:  Misuse of 'abbreviation' is even more common.  Your category 2 is more properly an 'initialism'.  An abbreviation (properly so-called) is a shortening of a word or phrase, and properly used it always ends in a period (cf. abbr., etc., et al., usw.) and when you speak it you're supposed to use the whole word.  Nobody would say "etk" instead of 'et cetera', for example, although I sometimes leave 'et al' or 'op cit' as semi-slangily short.

There have been some interesting 'overlaps' between acronyms and initialisms over the years, sometimes due to organizational culture.  My father noted that The Air Force has an acronym ... not an initialism -- for Ground-Launched Cruise Missiles.  It's spelled "GLCM" but is actually pronounced 'glick'em'... as it turned out.  He also remembers the Plymouth GTX car, which Chrysler claimed in a radio ad was pronounced "git'ix". 

In a startling burst of (to me) common sense, the 11th edition of the Merriam-Webster dictionary has officially removed the artificial distinction between acronym and initialism.  So fortunately or unfortunately, we pedants only have a limited time to remark on the 'misuse' of these things.

 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Wednesday, July 22, 2015 6:07 PM

ET?

Maybe it knows how to phone home?

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Posted by kgbw49 on Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:30 PM
I would vote for GE changing its nomenclature: Six-axle Tier 4 Eco AC Motor Tag line: STEAM for the 21st Century (Notice tongue firmly in cheek)
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Posted by Wizlish on Thursday, July 23, 2015 12:38 PM

kgbw49
I would vote for GE changing its nomenclature: Six-axle Tier 4 Eco AC Motor Tag line: STEAM for the 21st Century (Notice tongue firmly in cheek)

Or in this Internet-initialism-crazed 21st Century, and bowing to the perhaps desirability of Heritage-unit appeal in nomenclature as well as paint scheme, why not "Six-axle Tier 4 Universal" series?

<bit tongue-in-cheek badly while running away...>

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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Friday, July 24, 2015 7:39 PM
  • ET44AC - Tier 4-compliant version of the ES44AC, to begin production in summer 2015.
  • ET44C4 - Tier 4-compliant version of the ES44C4. First production unit is BNSF 3916, built in May 2015.
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Posted by Speaking clock on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:08 AM

Someone did some puns awhile ago on this site, where are they now?

Here's this little gem.

Alco=always leaking coolant and oil.

also, I read this is the paper this morning:

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Posted by Wizlish on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:19 AM

Speaking clock
I read this is the paper this morning:

I would have sent this via PM, but you have that feature turned off (hint, hint, verbum sap., etc.):

The reference or link you provided is not visible in the post.  Can you edit to include it?  If you can't get the link to be 'live', at least provide the URL as text...

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Posted by M636C on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:05 PM
LensCapOn wrote the following post 7 days ago:

ET = Extra Tall.

In fact the production ET units don't have the taller engine cover on the blue prototypes. One can assume that that was to allow for additional expermental or test equipment, or that the final layout had not been decided when they were designed.

The overall height of the locomotive would be very similar to an ES unit, and the different cooling arrangement will be the main recognition feature.

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Posted by Wizlish on Monday, August 3, 2015 12:04 PM

Since this is the nearest thing to a 'current' ET44 thread -- official deliveries of the units have started, according to LocoNotes.

BNSF 3817 and 3419 (the first of 161 ET44C4s slated for delivery this year!) were received in Fort Worth on July 29th.

Completed Tier 4 examples for CN and CSX have apparently been spotted at Erie, so expect them soon too.

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Posted by Speaking clock on Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:24 AM

Wizlish

 

 
Speaking clock
I read this is the paper this morning:

 

I would have sent this via PM, but you have that feature turned off (hint, hint, verbum sap., etc.):

The reference or link you provided is not visible in the post.  Can you edit to include it?  If you can't get the link to be 'live', at least provide the URL as text...

 

 

my bad, it was a newspaper with the headline "newspapers still exist" 

i I knew this because there's a Chillicothe paper mill that runs out of an old railroad engine house That still ships by CSX.

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