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Whats the smallest standard gauge locomotive made?

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Whats the smallest standard gauge locomotive made?
Posted by Boyd on Saturday, August 2, 2014 2:24 AM

And I'm looking for answers in Steam, Diesel, Electric etc.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Saturday, August 2, 2014 6:53 AM

The smallest standard-gauge diesel would probably be an industrial design.  I have pictures of a GE 35-tonner but I have no doubt that Plymouth, Brookville or some other specialized builder came up with something smaller.

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Posted by ndbprr on Saturday, August 2, 2014 12:46 PM
Didn't EMD make a very small four wheel switcher?
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Posted by NorthWest on Saturday, August 2, 2014 1:23 PM

Smallest designs for both steam and diesel are probably four wheeled industrial locomotives. For electrics, I suspect it is one of the classes of four wheeled Swiss switchers.

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Posted by PNWRMNM on Saturday, August 2, 2014 1:28 PM

For steam I can not imagine any thing smaller (lighter) than the Tom Thumb. The B&O's grasshoppers were not much heavier.

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Posted by creepycrank on Saturday, August 2, 2014 2:24 PM

ndbprr
Didn't EMD make a very small four wheel switcher?

 Yes. It was the model 40, 11 units were built in the early 40's. They had 2 150 hp Detroit Diesel engines and a full size switcher cab.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Saturday, August 2, 2014 9:37 PM

I would guess today its those trackmobiles (?) that run on both rail or rubber tires.

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Posted by ACY Tom on Sunday, August 3, 2014 10:26 AM

Would a Fairmont speeder qualify as a "locomotive"?

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Posted by rfpjohn on Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:09 PM

Mack trucks built a very small 4 wheel diesel, I think smaller than that EMD job. Black River & Western used to have it in their collection, probably still do. There were plenty of tiny gas mechanical 4 wheelers built and as PNWRMNM pointed out, early steam locomotives were tiny!

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Posted by eagle1030 on Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:52 PM

Does this count?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=453746&nseq=67

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Posted by LensCapOn on Monday, August 4, 2014 11:28 AM

Do you count the small electric "pushers" (some battery powered) as a locomotive?

If not, what is your working definition?

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:06 AM

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:16 AM

The smallest modern steam locomotive was a 'miniaturized' Porter 0-4-0T built for the Bullard Machine Company, their #2.    When I saw it at Steamtown (Reading) some years ago it was parked right in front of the Big Boy...

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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 12:58 PM
yup EMD Model 40. http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/emd_model40.jpg
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Posted by Boyd on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:55 PM
My definition would be that it must be able to move RR cars to be a locomotive. So in my definition a speeder is not a locomotive.

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 2:10 PM

There is a company in Derby, England, that is developing a low-cost lightweight modern streetcar, and on the way has developed a very successful "Railway Shop Cat."  It looks like a flat slab (and one or two people can stand on it, but don't), has four wheels not much bigger than rollerskate wheels, and is controlled from a wireless computer tablet.  It is battery powered.   It can slowly move a large 100-foot long light railcar or even two coupled if necessary.  I think the name is something like DDSystems or something like that.  They use the wheel-motor permanent magnet concept, rivaling Magnet Motor in Germany, who power many of Europe's low-floor battery, hybred, and trolleybuses.

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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 4:02 PM
A track mobile is NOT a locomotive, neither is a speeder, both are considered track cars same as MofW equipment. for it to be locomotive it has to comply with FRA rules for locomotives the CFR49 part#229. now check this out for ballsy little locomotive. http://members.shaw.ca/tractivepower/index.html?page_id=110
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wednesday, August 6, 2014 6:40 PM
how about this puppy : http://members.shaw.ca/tractivepower/index.html?page_id=110
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Posted by LNER4472 on Monday, August 11, 2014 10:40 PM

I offer up for consideration the "Flying Bufferbeam," a 1936 0-4-0T standard gauge steamer weighing only eleven (long/metric) tons:

http://www.brc-stockbook.co.uk/1900.htm

http://ukrailways1970tilltoday.me.uk/Buckinghamshire_Railway_Centre_8.html

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 9:07 AM

WOW THE WINNER?

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Posted by carnej1 on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 11:31 AM

daveklepper

WOW THE WINNER?

I doubt it. I believe there were standard gauge Industrial locomotives smaller than that...

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Posted by LensCapOn on Friday, August 15, 2014 7:57 AM

Speaking of industrial engines, here is a selection from a good site for that. Go back a screen and there are more Mfgs to choose from. 10-12 ton are easy to find. Some must be lighter.

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/diesel142.html

A five ton.

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/diesel142.html

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Posted by puffy on Friday, August 15, 2014 11:21 AM
The Draper Corporation bobbin plant at Beebe River, NH had a 10 ton Plymouth diesel with hand brakes built around the 1940's. In display in a Lincoln, NH shopping strip.

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