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BNSF color new to me?
Posted by gold dredger guy on Monday, October 24, 2011 9:27 PM

Seen these two engines Saturday at debutts yard in Chattanooga, Can anyone tell me about the paint job .

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Posted by silicon212 on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:19 AM

Your facebook permissions are set to not allow us to view the image ... if you could upload it to Flickr or something, that might help.

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Posted by gold dredger guy on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:58 PM

Sorry, should be set public view,

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:01 PM

Still not accesable.

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Posted by gold dredger guy on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:04 PM

Copied it over to photobucket, but facebook says its public????

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Posted by gold dredger guy on Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:08 PM
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Posted by SD60M on Wednesday, October 26, 2011 5:59 PM

Its actually older than the Orange BNSF Schemes. This is Burlington Northern's Executive Paint Scheme and the SD70MACs were the only BN Freight Locomotive to receive the scheme. I cant remember exactly how many 70MACs the BN ordered before the Merger with Santa Fe i think it was around 300 or 350 locomotives. There are Still plenty around but it is nice you caught one with some kind of logo on the nose!

 

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Posted by samfp1943 on Wednesday, October 26, 2011 9:38 PM

SD60M

Its actually older than the Orange BNSF Schemes. "This is Burlington Northern's Executive Paint Scheme and the SD70MACs were the only BN Freight Locomotive to receive the scheme." I cant remember exactly how many 70MACs the BN ordered before the Merger with Santa Fe i think it was around 300 or 350 locomotives. There are Still plenty around but it is nice you caught one with some kind of logo on the nose!

-Kade

Found this bit of info referencing the paint scheme you have referenced.:

From;[ Wikipaedia site: ref: Burlington Northern RR]:

"In October 1990, BN departed from its Cascade Green, black and white scheme on its business car, and locomotive fleet. Adopting Grinstein Green (an altered version of Brunswick Green/British Racing Green and  Cream, and Alizarin Red...( named after the president of Burlington Northern, Gerald Grinstein),

  '... This scheme was applied to EMD F9A-2 #BN-1, EMD F9B-2 #BN-2, and EMD E9A-2 #BN-3, of the locomotive fleet and the business car fleet. In November 1993, brand new EMD SD70MAC #9401 received the Executive colors, making a departure from the standard Cascade Green, White & Black scheme. This trend continued only on the EMD SD70MAC's until BNSF #9837..."

The BH RR executive E-9s (A_B_A set) (BN-1, BN-2,BN-3 reside by donation at the Ill Railroad Museum in Union Ill. IIRCThey are in operational condition(?)

Photos and info linked here:

http://www.irm.org/cgi-bin/rsearch.cgi?diesel=Burlington+Northern=BN-1

 

The current paint schemes have evolved through several groups and test applications any number of which may be seen on the BNSF's trains.  Someone else with better info on those applications may wish to respond with better info on the that process.Crying

 

 


 

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Posted by Evergreen24 on Saturday, November 5, 2011 9:14 PM

samfp1943

 SD60M:

Its actually older than the Orange BNSF Schemes. "This is Burlington Northern's Executive Paint Scheme and the SD70MACs were the only BN Freight Locomotive to receive the scheme." I cant remember exactly how many 70MACs the BN ordered before the Merger with Santa Fe i think it was around 300 or 350 locomotives. There are Still plenty around but it is nice you caught one with some kind of logo on the nose!

-Kade

 

Found this bit of info referencing the paint scheme you have referenced.:

From;[ Wikipaedia site: ref: Burlington Northern RR]:

"In October 1990, BN departed from its Cascade Green, black and white scheme on its business car, and locomotive fleet. Adopting Grinstein Green (an altered version of Brunswick Green/British Racing Green and  Cream, and Alizarin Red...( named after the president of Burlington Northern, Gerald Grinstein),

  '... This scheme was applied to EMD F9A-2 #BN-1, EMD F9B-2 #BN-2, and EMD E9A-2 #BN-3, of the locomotive fleet and the business car fleet. In November 1993, brand new EMD SD70MAC #9401 received the Executive colors, making a departure from the standard Cascade Green, White & Black scheme. This trend continued only on the EMD SD70MAC's until BNSF #9837..."

The BH RR executive E-9s (A_B_A set) (BN-1, BN-2,BN-3 reside by donation at the Ill Railroad Museum in Union Ill. IIRCThey are in operational condition(?)

Photos and info linked here:

http://www.irm.org/cgi-bin/rsearch.cgi?diesel=Burlington+Northern=BN-1

 

The current paint schemes have evolved through several groups and test applications any number of which may be seen on the BNSF's trains.  Someone else with better info on those applications may wish to respond with better info on the that process.Crying

 

There's a wee bit of confusion about the history of BNSF's paint schemes. The photo you supplied is the last new scheme selected by the wife of then-president Gerald Grinstein. Dubbed "Executive".

The Green is actually from the Pennsylvania's Brunswick Green (or Dark Green Locomotive Enamel) while the Alizarin Red is believed to be the same shade found on the Burlington Northern's intermodal equipment (well cars). However it falls somewhere between a Pigment Red, Lust Red and/or Munsell Red. The Crème (Cream) on the other hand, was entirely a new color.

In December 1995, both the Burlington Northern and the Santa Fe (under the holding company Burlington Northern Santa Fe Corporation) railroads began to "rebrand" their continuing order of locomotives with slight changes.

The Santa Fe began first in December 1995 with SD75M #8251. Using the same font from the Santa Fe, this locomotive emerged with tall "BNSF" lettering along the sides of the carbody but with "SANTA FE" on the cigar band of the nose.

In January 1996, the Burlington Northern commenced their side of rebranding with SD70MAC #9711 & #9712. Although it was believed that 9711 and 9712 were to emerge as BN 9711 and BN 9712 to fill the missing gap between 9710 and Early DPU's 9713-9716, these locomotives emerged with the number font found on the Santa Fe on the cabs and the BNSF text along the carbody. The BN logo still remained on the nose and rear hood of the locomotives though.

When this occurred on both sides, the belief at the time was to display the unity of the two companies but keeping their original schemes (somewhat similar to pre-Seaboard System in 1982). In May 1996, BNSF SD60M #9297 was painted in an experimental paint scheme using the colors of the Burlington Northern's Grinstein Green/Intermodal Blue/Alizarin Red, and Great Northern's Omaha Orange.

It wasn't until August 1996 (one month before the official merger took place) did BNSF #960 emerge as the selected scheme with the ideas heavily borrowed from BNSF #9297. Exactly one year later did BNSF management approve of another scheme to fit widecabs and larger carbodies with C44-9W's #739, 740 & 745 making the debut.

And about those SD70MAC's...the original order (from a Trains Magazine) was 350 for the BN. So that would mean BNSF #9749 would be the last unit ordered by the BN, unless an order change may have occurred in which BNSF #9837 was the last locomotive to carry the Executive paint scheme in March 1997.

Under the BNSF ownership, quite a handful of BN SD70MAC's were already showing their wear and tear of use. BNSF elected to remove the worn logos from the SD70MAC's rather than a full repaint. Applying the same logo found on Bethgon Coalporters and Reefers and a unique dark seafoam green text along the cab, once again were the SD70MAC's the only ones who recieved such a treatment. Somewhere along the 9600 series and up, the seafoam green was replaced with Grinstein Green to match the locomotive. There were a few units that had Cascade Green patches as well.

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