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Anyone knows about scrapped Dash 9's ?

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Anyone knows about scrapped Dash 9's ?
Posted by Mario_v on Monday, September 14, 2009 2:42 PM

Hello all.

 

Recently I saw some photos of Dash 9's scrapped, or at least being used as 'organ donors' by Brazil's All. It caught my attention, since this and other companies have an huge fleet of secondhand C30-7's (and also SD40-2's, SD45T's) in widespread use thru their networks, both broad and metre gauge. And Dash 9s being about 2 generations apart it looked quite strange.

Are there any class 1's in the US where this sort of sittuation (units scarpped 'with method' and not by means of accidents) happens also ? 

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Posted by CAZEPHYR on Monday, September 14, 2009 5:04 PM

 Any Dash 9 being cut up would be what remains from a wreck.   Most have been rebuilt since they can be repaired even if the frame is the only thing left.  This happened in one case and the picture was on one of the favorite picture forums.

The CN units that went into the water were junked and the cab was used from one of those units on a UP AC4400 that had been wrecked.  The tear shaped windows were on that cab, but I believe I read they were modified to have the standard GE windows.   Some pictures of that unit (6759) was on the Railpictures forum also during the rebuild showing the CN cab on the UP unit.

CZ

Thanks to railpictures!!  Sorry it would not link up. 

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=232015&nseq=0

 

 

 

 

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Posted by samfp1943 on Monday, September 14, 2009 7:52 PM

CAZEPHYR

 Any Dash 9 being cut up would be what remains from a wreck.   Most have been rebuilt since they can be repaired even if the frame is the only thing left.  This happened in one case and the picture was on one of the favorite picture forums.

The CN units that went into the water were junked and the cab was used from one of those units on a UP AC4400 that had been wrecked.  The tear shaped windows were on that cab, but I believe I read they were modified to have the standard GE windows.   Some pictures of that unit (6759) was on the Railpictures forum also during the rebuild showing the CN cab on the UP unit.

CZ

Thanks to railpictures!!  Sorry it would not link up. 

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=232015&nseq=0

 

Hope this heats up the link!Approve

 


 

 

 


 

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Posted by Mario_v on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:18 PM

Hello all ;

 

Thanks for the information.

 

The cases I referred were a little different from these. There were off course some scrapped units, but some pictures showed units inside works as if they had been 'cannibalized', i.e. used as parts donnors, showing empty control stands and engineless frames, others were outside, but only remains (one was just a cab, separated frpoom the frame). This peticular company ALL inherited some units from Ferronorte, wich was merged into it, and most units were still with the original 'white and green' scheme.like this one :

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=208006&nseq=150 

 and some with their all red scheme, just like this one :

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=215584&nseq=137

 What caught my attention was the fact that there were numerous units in thee state I've mentioned. I know they can be easaly rebuilt, and add to that the fact that there is a local GE factory that buiilds locos under license. What is really odd is to see such modern engines already in a 'scrap' or 'pre scrap', state with the standars power being these

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=277706&nseq=20

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=221941&nseq=133

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=198911&nseq=166

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:49 PM

Not uncommon to see brand new or nearly brand new locomotives parked and used as a source of spare parts in various parts of the world. One example that comes to mind is Australia's BHP system. They've never ran their first SD70ACe, it's been parked and used as a source for spares since day 1 to support their fleet of SD70ACe's. Zero miles on her besides whatever testing the builder did to her before delivery.

Another example that comes to mind would be European Class 66/JT42CWR's. Several dozen older units have been parked and stored for use as spare parts sources while orders for newer units of the same model continue, despite being modern 12 cylinder EMD's with 710 engines in them that have been very successful, with the model still in production.

 Not aware of any scrappings taken place in my examples, but they're being stripped and used as parts sources.

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Posted by BamaCSX83 on Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:20 PM

I think that no matter what, you're always going to have a "hangar queen" that's a unit that's operational, but sits and is used to cannibalize (sp?).

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