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locomotive types
Posted by rambo1 on Monday, September 7, 2009 6:47 PM
I don't understand why steam engines had names like mikadol or pacific hudson and berckshire? rambo1.....
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Posted by cprted on Monday, September 7, 2009 7:38 PM

 I suspect it largely comes out of the navel tradition of naming classes of vessels. 

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Posted by MJChittick on Monday, September 7, 2009 8:41 PM

Please go to the following links for a pretty thorough explanation of American steam locomotive types, their wheel arrangements and "names".  The first link is within the Classic Trains section of this web site.

http://www.trains.com/ctr/default.aspx?c=ss&id=12

http://www.steamlocomotive.com/misc/wheels.shtml

 

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, September 7, 2009 9:58 PM

Mike, your two references certainly give a comprehensive coverage of the names of locomotive types. I did miss, however, an explanation for the name "Consolidated" or "Consolidation." I do not recall seeing any explanation anywhere. Does anyone have a sure word on this? I was sorry not to see the Union Pacific type discussed in the first link.

As to the two or more names given to a particular type (as the second link shows), it may be evident that a second road to use a particular type did not like the original name--such as the Dixie Line (NC&StL) calling its 4-8-4's "Dixie" and not "Northern." I have never see a reason for the Milwaukee's calling its 4-6-4's "Baltic."  We could even go further and speak of the "Yellow Jackets" and "Stripes" of the NC&StL, but that takes a little longer to explain.

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Posted by MJChittick on Monday, September 7, 2009 10:40 PM

Deggesty

I did miss, however, an explanation for the name "Consolidated" or "Consolidation."

According to the second link (American Steam Locomotive Wheel Arrangements), the first 2-8-0s "were built in 1866 by Baldwin for the Lehigh Valley (which had recently been created by the merger of several smaller roads).  In other words, "a consolidation" in mid-1800 American English.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 2:43 PM

A lot of the names (and the 4-8-4 looks to have had more than any other wheel arrangement) stemmed from railroad pride and image.  F'rinstance, it wouldn't do for the Water Level Route to have a locomotive called a "Mountain," so NYC called their 4-8-2's a "Mohawk."

You can almost tell by looking at the names given the 4-8-4 wheel arrangement which railroad they served.

In many cases the naming (at least of the original) seems to have been the honor of the first railroad to design/purchase a given wheel arrangement.

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