Trains.com

Running independently up a hill?

1895 views
5 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    July 2005
  • 535 posts
Running independently up a hill?
Posted by nucat78 on Friday, December 7, 2007 10:56 AM

The 11/07 issue of "Trains" has an article about an MRL tank train that stalled on a hill.  The crew disconnected the MU cable and ran the two units independently to get the train up the hill with no problem.

Why would that work?  Total horsepower, weight, etc is the same.  And if the lead unit is in a certain throttle position, aren't all the trailing units in the same throttle position when MU'd?   Thanks.

 

  • Member since
    December 2001
  • From: Northern New York
  • 25,020 posts
Posted by tree68 on Friday, December 7, 2007 11:17 AM

Even locomotives of the same model can handle differently. 

Running the locomotives independently means each can be run where at a level where it is contributing the most - not slipping drivers being a key consideration.

 

LarryWhistling
Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) 
Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you
My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date
Come ride the rails with me!
There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...

  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Dexter, Maine, USA
  • 48 posts
Posted by GAURC on Friday, December 7, 2007 12:15 PM
 nucat78 wrote:

The 11/07 issue of "Trains" has an article about an MRL tank train that stalled on a hill.  The crew disconnected the MU cable and ran the two units independently to get the train up the hill with no problem.

Why would that work?  Total horsepower, weight, etc is the same.  And if the lead unit is in a certain throttle position, aren't all the trailing units in the same throttle position when MU'd?   Thanks.

 

Excellent question. I noticed that and also wondered, but had forgotten about it. Glad you brought it up.

~Rick

  • Member since
    December 2001
  • From: NW Wisconsin
  • 3,857 posts
Posted by beaulieu on Friday, December 7, 2007 12:33 PM
 nucat78 wrote:

The 11/07 issue of "Trains" has an article about an MRL tank train that stalled on a hill.  The crew disconnected the MU cable and ran the two units independently to get the train up the hill with no problem.

Why would that work?  Total horsepower, weight, etc is the same.  And if the lead unit is in a certain throttle position, aren't all the trailing units in the same throttle position when MU'd?   Thanks.

The answer is in your last sentence, When the MU cable is plugged in all the locomotives will be in the same throttle position unless one of them has been shut down or isolated. The problem was this, the rail had become very slippery, and the lead locomotive could not be operated with the throttle in the #8 position without its wheels slipping badly. The story doesn't say how much it had to be reduced to stop the slipping, but let's say it was to throttle position #6. With the lead locomotive's throttle in #6 and the cable plugged in the second locomotive's throttle would also be in position #6. This didn't produce enough power to keep the train moving. By unplugging the cable the second locomotive's throttle could be in position #8, while the lead locomotive's throttle was in position #6, this produced more power which was enough to get the train up the hill. The passage of the lead locomotive with it's sanders on will make the rail less slippery for the following locomotives. 

  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Dexter, Maine, USA
  • 48 posts
Posted by GAURC on Friday, December 7, 2007 12:52 PM
  • Member since
    July 2005
  • 535 posts
Posted by nucat78 on Monday, December 10, 2007 12:54 PM

Thank you, gentlemen.

 

Join our Community!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

Search the Community

Newsletter Sign-Up

By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy