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UP AC44CCTE
Posted by gamcgee on Monday, August 20, 2007 5:41 PM
Earlier this summer, I photographed UP 6161 at the NIPSCO, Michigan City Generating Plant in Michigan City, IN.  I know that this plant gets its coal from the Powder River Basin.  It is a GE model AC44CCTE.  I've searched for an explanation of this unique designation, but have been unable to find anything.  I'm sure it must be part of the GE AC4400CW family.  Can anyone explain this to me?  Thanks.
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Posted by silicon212 on Monday, August 20, 2007 6:17 PM
It's a UP designation.  On these units, the computer software that runs the inverters is considered "Controlled Tractive Effort", the CTE after AC44C.  It's a UP AC4400CW.
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Posted by edblysard on Monday, August 20, 2007 7:25 PM

So to give you the entire thing...it is an

AC, (alternating current) 4400 hp, C trucked locomotive with Controlled Tractive Effort, or an AC44CCTE,...simple, huh!

Try saying that three times really fast!Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by bakupolo on Monday, August 20, 2007 10:31 PM
That's the only engine I ever see pulling UP coal drags around Central Texas. Always 2 or 3 in front and always one in back - I'm told the main purpose of the rear locomotive is fast air pressure in the brakepipe, not pushing.
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Posted by gamcgee on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:03 AM

 silicon212 wrote:
It's a UP designation.  On these units, the computer software that runs the inverters is considered "Controlled Tractive Effort", the CTE after AC44C.  It's a UP AC4400CW.

Thanks for the reply.  That makes sense to me. 

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Posted by gamcgee on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:04 AM
 edblysard wrote:

So to give you the entire thing...it is an

AC, (alternating current) 4400 hp, C trucked locomotive with Controlled Tractive Effort, or an AC44CCTE,...simple, huh!

Try saying that three times really fast!Big Smile [:D]

It is a mouthful!  Thanks for the insightful reply.

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Posted by silicon212 on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:10 AM

UP's designation on the ES44AC GEVO is C45ACCTE, just for info.  Also, come to think of it, the AC4400CW is a C44ACCTE, not an AC44CCTE.

Confused?  Yeah, me too.  That's why I like the SD70ACe. ;)

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:12 AM
So is the AC45CCTE 4500 HP then?

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Posted by silicon212 on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:07 AM
No, they did that to differentiate it from the older, 16-cyl model.
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Posted by CNW 6000 on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:25 AM

Ok then is the 45 a 12, 20 or other number of cylinders?

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Posted by silicon212 on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 3:15 PM
The "C45ACCTE" is a standard ES44AC Evolution Series with CTE software.  It has a 12-cylinder GEVO engine in it.
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Posted by CNW 6000 on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 3:18 PM
So the AC44CTEs have 16 cyl prime movers and are the 'older' ones and the AC45CCTEs have the GEVO 12 cyl prime mover.  Did I finally get that right?

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Posted by silicon212 on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 3:35 PM
Yes, That's it!  I think! 
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Posted by da Milwaukee beerNut on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 5:11 PM

 gamcgee wrote:
Photographed UP 6161 - GE model AC44CCTE @ Michigan City, IN.   I'm sure it must be part of the GE AC4400CW family.

http://www.utahrails.net/all-time/current-index.php

Click on the road numbers in the left column. Notes on the pages that open are terrific. 

C44AC  Earliest of this family - deliveries began in 1995  (16 cylinder)

C44AC-CTE (2nd order units) Tier I emissions compliant. (16 cylinder) Numbered 5554-5694 and 5700 - 6081 (2001-2004 deliveries)

C45AC-CTE  are current 12 cylinder GEVO power - Tier II [delivered 2005 +]

Confusion - GE * UP style! 

1240 EMD SD70M's began arriving in 2003. [Dem'z DC locos!] 

One more helpful scorecard: http://www.thedieselshop.us/UP.HTML

 

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