"While nothing in that movie even vaguely resembled real life for anyone, "
I used to eat breakfast in the diner. It was in Hawthorne on Hawthorne Blvd. Seemed all too real to me! A few years after the movie they tore it down and built an AutoZone there.
When I first moved to Toronto, I was at a friend's house. His wife asked if I wanted to sit in the Lay-Zee-Boy chair. I asked, "Since this is Canada and all, shouldn't it be Lay-Zed-Boy?" She was not amused but her husband was.
So how is the band ZZ Top announced?
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
2010Challenger I've never heard anyone from the US pronounce it "Zed", only people from the UK and Australia. It's always "Zee".
I've never heard anyone from the US pronounce it "Zed", only people from the UK and Australia. It's always "Zee".
I first heard it pronounced "Zed" from my opposite numbers at Canadian Customs at Pigeon River, ON many years ago when I worked as a seasonal inspector with INS at Grand Portage MN.
Nothing to add here except I've rarely enjoyed a thread here as much as this one. Having lived in some of the places mentioned and run into some of the variations in language, not too much surprises me anymore. I do have to say that when I lived in Australia, it took me awhile to figure out what a Manchester sale was at the local department store.
Big Al
Overmod No one I ever met in the United States said 'zed'. That's a Britannicism seen in other ex-Dominions like Oz or EnZed. It's 'ex,wye,zee' here and long may it stay so; let the French keep their ygrec and such. And where I come from, Chesterfield is a coat. And within my living memory people also called that article of furniture a 'divan' or 'davenport' -- more regional fun.
No one I ever met in the United States said 'zed'. That's a Britannicism seen in other ex-Dominions like Oz or EnZed. It's 'ex,wye,zee' here and long may it stay so; let the French keep their ygrec and such.
And where I come from, Chesterfield is a coat. And within my living memory people also called that article of furniture a 'divan' or 'davenport' -- more regional fun.
We knew someone from Chicago who called it a "Dufoe". I remember asking her how it was spelled. Some old lady in a movie called the couch/sofa a "Dufoe", and I cracked up laughing. It was embarrassing.
And it's been with everyone I've ever heard, "4-4-Oh".
Overmod Rode the Turbotrain both under PC and Amtrak, Boston - NY about eight times, both to GCT and later Penn. It wa referred to as the cab, just as for a steam locomotive and, at leat on the New Haven and B&M, diesels and electrics as well I usually boarded early and sat in the dome or blister behind the cab, with the wonderful view through the glass partition. Maximum speed from my memory was 110 mph. The front platform on New Haven mus and RDCs was simply the front platform from my memory. ACY Tom NOWHERE is it the cockpit, except in the air. What was the name used for the arrangement in the 'power domes' of the UA TurboTrains? And 'cab' seems just a bit conservative for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E193EkN0mcY
Rode the Turbotrain both under PC and Amtrak, Boston - NY about eight times, both to GCT and later Penn. It wa referred to as the cab, just as for a steam locomotive and, at leat on the New Haven and B&M, diesels and electrics as well I usually boarded early and sat in the dome or blister behind the cab, with the wonderful view through the glass partition. Maximum speed from my memory was 110 mph.
The front platform on New Haven mus and RDCs was simply the front platform from my memory.
ACY Tom NOWHERE is it the cockpit, except in the air.
What was the name used for the arrangement in the 'power domes' of the UA TurboTrains?
And 'cab' seems just a bit conservative for
54light15 I live in Toronnna and I can't say I've ever heard that. Maybe I need to live in British California or something.
I live in Toronnna and I can't say I've ever heard that. Maybe I need to live in British California or something.
It's really quite striking. I was born in Kirkland Lake and have spent years in the military serving across the country. Retired in Lotus Land, Vancouver Island, and when I listen to Sarah Richardson on HGTV, her 'abewt' really stands ewt to me.
I always say O for the steam trains, when I'm giving a phone # or address to someone and then I will say zero, never even heard of zed. I only know Chesterfield as a cig and after spending a couple of weeks in Canada, I was saying eh too. Never heard a steam cab called a footplate either. We speak the same language but have different terms for thngs.
A friend who was in the Army and worked communications taught me the military alphabet. I don't remember all of it now, but when I say Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, if there's a military person nearby, they will always laugh, others just look at me like I'm nuts.
54light15 I've lived in Canada for the last 23 years and "eh?" is kinda dying out. But, a case of beer will always be a two-four. The Victoria Day holiday is in mid-May, the beginning of the summer season, like Memorial Day. No matter what day it falls on, it's referred to as May two-four for reasons that I am sure you can figure out. And, no we don't pronounce it as "oot." I've never ever heard that.
I've lived in Canada for the last 23 years and "eh?" is kinda dying out. But, a case of beer will always be a two-four. The Victoria Day holiday is in mid-May, the beginning of the summer season, like Memorial Day. No matter what day it falls on, it's referred to as May two-four for reasons that I am sure you can figure out. And, no we don't pronounce it as "oot." I've never ever heard that.
If you listen to a person from Hog Town/Trannah/The Big Smoke, and you live almost anywhere else, they have a distinct "ehwt" for "out."
I go to the U.K. twice a year and get asked, "what part of the states are you from? " all the time. I was at the Didcot Railway Centre and the ticket guy asked, "what part of Canada are you from?" I told him Toronto and he said, "are you impressed that I knew you were from Canada?" I told him, "I was shocked!" It turns out he used to work for British Airways and flew into Toronto all the time.
Didcot is well worth visiting, the 7-foot gauge replica Brunel equipment is there and is run occasionally.
I read an interesting story on the BBC website a few months ago which noted that Americans and Canadians can tell the differences in each other's accents but that the rest of the world, including other Anglophones, can't.
Every Friday afternoon driving home from work, I listen to C-F-Zed-M, AM 740 in Toronto...(OK... via Blutooth, so it's not Real Radio...!) So, from my first visit to Canada in 1961 (at age 5) to my most resent this past October, I've always used "Zed" as the 26th letter of the alphabet and "eh?" as the 27th letter. Cheers!
W3XWT/VE3
Cardiff Central Station in Wales has a platform 0 - presumably pronounced zero. The added it on the north side of the station and did not wish to renumber the existing platfroms which are numbered southwards from the original northmost Platform 1.
Talk to Shatner:
Trains, trains, wonderful trains. The more you get, the more you toot!
Paul of Covington ACY Tom Reminds me of the time I heard a TV reporter refer to a locomotive cab as the cockpit. There was an episode of "Modern Family" where the extended family was traveling on a train. In one scene the daughter comes into the car and says, "I was just up in the control room talking to the engineer..."
ACY Tom Reminds me of the time I heard a TV reporter refer to a locomotive cab as the cockpit.
There was an episode of "Modern Family" where the extended family was traveling on a train. In one scene the daughter comes into the car and says, "I was just up in the control room talking to the engineer..."
Johnny
ACY TomReminds me of the time I heard a TV reporter refer to a locomotive cab as the cockpit.
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"A stranger's just a friend you ain't met yet." --- Dave Gardner
The Cockpit is also this- A nice place, I've had a pint or two there.
http://www.fancyapint.com/Pub/london/cockpit/173
ACY TomNOWHERE is it the cockpit, except in the air.
Cockpit has become flight deck..
CSSHEGEWISCH ACY Tom Reminds me of the time I heard a TV reporter refer to a locomotive cab as the cockpit. It actually happened. Tom Don't be so hard on the guy. Like the public at large, he's a lot more familiar with some aviation terms than railroad terms. To be fair, do you call it the cab or the footplate?
ACY Tom Reminds me of the time I heard a TV reporter refer to a locomotive cab as the cockpit. It actually happened. Tom
Reminds me of the time I heard a TV reporter refer to a locomotive cab as the cockpit. It actually happened.
Tom
In the U.S., it's the cab. In England, it's the footplate. "When in Rome....."
NOWHERE is it the cockpit, except in the air.
Hello all,i am a Brit so! oh-4-oh, oh-6-oh etc.
Steam locomotive, it's a footplate,diesel its a cab.
Chesterfield, a particular style of sofa,usualy has role over top arms ,turned legs and is on wheels.at least thats what my daughter purchased from a Chesterfield furniture specialist manufacturer.
Chesterfield is also a place name.
Don.
ORNHOO I once visited the steam shop of the Sierra Railroad in Jamestown, CA. Looking at a 4-4-0 I described it as a "four-four-oh"; the docent pointed out that "oh" is a letter, and wheel arangements are described with numerals: "four-four-zero". This, in turn, reminded me that my father (born in 1914) always called "0" "Aught". So, iback in the day, what was the acceptable pronunciation of the missing trailing truck?
I once visited the steam shop of the Sierra Railroad in Jamestown, CA. Looking at a 4-4-0 I described it as a "four-four-oh"; the docent pointed out that "oh" is a letter, and wheel arangements are described with numerals: "four-four-zero". This, in turn, reminded me that my father (born in 1914) always called "0" "Aught". So, iback in the day, what was the acceptable pronunciation of the missing trailing truck?
How old was this docent? Put him in a time machine and send him back to 1940. When he says four-four-zero, the railroaders he meets will kick him back to 2018 poste haste. Revisionist history.
"Night Passage!" A great railroad-themed Western! I'll tell you, I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall if and when Col. Jimmy Stewart and Lieutenant Audie Murphy were together and having a few drinks. Can you imagine what those two heroes might have talked about?
Not rail related, but you want to know about a great Audie Murphy movie? Look for one called "No Name On The Bullet." More of a psycho-drama than a traditional Western, I watched it one time when there was "...nothing else on...", if you know what I mean. Great film with a surprise twist ending. Audie's great in this one, playing against type.
John Wayne! Damn, I miss him. Jimmy Stewart, Henry Fonda, Robert Mitchum. I miss all those guys that I grew up with. To get this back to a railroad topic, last night I watched a film, "Night Passage" with Jimmy Stewart, Audie Murphy and the ever-sleazy Dan Duryea. It's about building a railroad in Colorado. It took a while to realize it was narrow-gauge and a little longer to learn it was the D & R.G.W. A good picture but the title doesn't really have anything to do with the story.
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