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Gene Autry
Posted by 54light15 on Tuesday, January 02, 2018 3:01 PM

I understand that Gene owned a railroad. Any idea which one? Maybe I'm wrong but that is what I've heard. I do know that he was a railroad telegrapher. Love his music. 

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, January 02, 2018 5:17 PM

He had a full-size steam train at the Melody Ranch -- apparently both the engine and coaches are at Travel Town in Griffith Park.  He also optioned or bought some other steam engines, one from ET&WNC and D&RGW 463 that I know of.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Wednesday, January 03, 2018 3:32 PM

   What happened?   Maybe I'm senile, but it seems that yesterday there were several replies to this topic, including pictures.

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Posted by Penny Trains on Wednesday, January 03, 2018 6:41 PM

I guess it was deleted because it was more of an advertisement than I thought.  Still, it was the only vid I could find of the "Melody Ranch Daylight" so try googling that phrase and you should find it again.

As for the other stuff, the Travel Town Museum at Griffith Park and D&RG 463 is pulling at Chama, which is a public secret.  So maybe an edit would have been preferable.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Friday, January 05, 2018 8:41 PM

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I guess it was deleted because it was more of an advertisement than I thought.

   I wish that when moderators delete entries, they would include a note telling us why.

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Posted by Miningman on Friday, January 05, 2018 8:45 PM

Removed my INCO thread on string lining and all the pics wiping out 10 years of my Mining career in the process. Have no idea why. 

Have a hunch, but not sure. 

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Posted by 54light15 on Saturday, January 06, 2018 9:47 AM

That Melody Ranch "Daylight" is awesome! If I had that to play with I sure wouldn't bother with N scale anymore. 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, January 06, 2018 9:55 AM

54light15

That Melody Ranch "Daylight" is awesome! If I had that to play with I sure wouldn't bother with N scale anymore. 

 

And how!  Although parting with the thundering majesty of O gauge would be a pretty wrenching decision on my part! 

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Posted by Penny Trains on Saturday, January 06, 2018 6:31 PM

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And how! Although parting with the thundering majesty of O gauge would be a pretty wrenching decision on my part!

Build it around the O gauge layout!  Big Smile  I've always had this daydream of using "lottery money" to build a live steam oval around my house.  But not just any mini railway!  I'd have the house rebuilt to resemble a Lionel station, I'd put the Hellgate bridge in the driveway and a big tunnel in the back yard!  I would ride around on my giant 392E and annoy the neighbors with the whistle!  Laugh

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, January 06, 2018 6:38 PM

By-Law Officer will shut you down right quick. Everything's OK until you started with the whistle. 

But.....I would do the same thing!

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Posted by SD70Dude on Saturday, January 06, 2018 9:02 PM

Why not move to the countryside, buy a quarter-section of land and build your dream layout.  I know a couple folks who have done that, with live steam too!

And (for better or worse) once your layout becomes known there is no shortage of fellow live-steam enthusiasts eager to run their engines on it, and they will usually help lay more track too!

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Posted by kgbw49 on Saturday, January 06, 2018 9:21 PM

That locomotive is on The Whiskey River Railway at Little Amerricka Amusement park in Marshall, WI which is just east of Madison.

http://www.littleamerricka.com/rides

Here is the Whiskey River Railway Page On Faceplant.

https://www.facebook.com/Whiskey-River-Railway-Marshall-Wisconsin-16gauge-258337366872/

And a video (many are out there).

http://videoclips24.com/watch/_4dqRNkob0g

 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Sunday, January 07, 2018 9:04 AM

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And how! Although parting with the thundering majesty of O gauge would be a pretty wrenching decision on my part!

 

Build it around the O gauge layout!  Big Smile  I've always had this daydream of using "lottery money" to build a live steam oval around my house.  But not just any mini railway!  I'd have the house rebuilt to resemble a Lionel station, I'd put the Hellgate bridge in the driveway and a big tunnel in the back yard!  I would ride around on my giant 392E and annoy the neighbors with the whistle!  Laugh

 

Now why didn't I think of that?  Let's see, a replica of the Tenafly NJ Erie station to house the O gauge layout, then the live-steam line circling the property and stopping at the station.  Of course, I'd build it out in the boonies so the neighbors wouldn't moan about the whistle noise, as a matter of fact the closest neighbors might even enjoy the sound of "That lonesome whistle cuttin' though the night" as the late, great Johnny Cash once put it,

Just gotta win the "Mega-Gazillions."  Haven't managed it yet.

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Posted by 54light15 on Sunday, January 07, 2018 10:53 AM

Didn't Ward Kimball have a live steam railroad on his property that was once way "out in the country" until the orange groves got developed which naturally was the end of that? 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Sunday, January 07, 2018 11:07 AM

A LOT of people had property "way out in the country" in California until post-war and then late 20th Century development took off like a rocket.  El Toro Marine Air Station was a recent casualty of development, with the new homeowners screaming about the jet engine noise.

The Corps was pressured into selling the property, but at least they made out like bandits from the money they got for it.  As a matter of fact, most of the former "out in the country" property owners made out like bandits.  

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Posted by erikem on Sunday, January 07, 2018 1:18 PM

54light15

Didn't Ward Kimball have a live steam railroad on his property that was once way "out in the country" until the orange groves got developed which naturally was the end of that? 

It was more like Ward getting too old to run the Grizzly Flats RR. I got a chance to see it in 1992 as part of the process of moving the majority of his collection to OERM in Perris. He had about 300' of 3 ft gauge track.

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Posted by Penny Trains on Sunday, January 07, 2018 6:49 PM

54light15

Didn't Ward Kimball have a live steam railroad on his property that was once way "out in the country" until the orange groves got developed which naturally was the end of that? 

 

As mentioned Ward had the Grizzly Flats Railroad in his "back yard".  It was a real narrow gauge "12 inches equals one foot" railroad with "no toy locomotive" as Ward said in one interview.

http://www.oerm.org/3-foot-gauge-grizzly-flats/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grizzly_Flats_Railroad

His railroad buddy, Walt Disney, had the Carolwood Pacific in his garden.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolwood_Pacific_Railroad

Ward gives Salvador Dali a ride on the Carolwood Pacific:

And Walt drove the Grizzly Flats line as well:

Ward was also an avid toy train collector:

If this photo had a caption, it would read "Mine!"  Laugh

And there was the Firehouse Five Plus Two:

For which Ward played trombone.  Harper Goff played the banjo.  He's the guy who designed the Nautilus.  But that's a different mode of transportation.  Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by Firelock76 on Sunday, January 07, 2018 8:19 PM

Best movie sub EVER!  Even better than the "Seaview", and that was a pretty cool sub as well!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYb_2hECbUM

And the theme music's pretty classic and stirring as well!

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Posted by 54light15 on Sunday, January 07, 2018 9:25 PM

Ah yes, the Seaview! The only submarine with picture windows. My ship (U.S.S. Guam, LPH-9) was in drydock in Philly. A big section of the lower hull was cut out so equipment could be brought into a lower-deck compartment. A new guy asked about that. I said, "You've seen the show, The Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, right" He said that he did. I said, "Well this is the same idea, so that Russian submarines can be visually observed." He said, "Wow." 

As regards to the Nautilus, I was in Disney World in Florida in about 1986. In one of the "main street" stores was a model of it. I asked and was told that the price was $800.00. She said that they sell maybe one a year and every time they do, the price goes up by $100.00. I kind of wish I bought it, I always thought that was the coolest sub ever made. 

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Posted by erikem on Sunday, January 07, 2018 9:45 PM

Penny Trains

 Ward was also an avid toy train collector:

If this photo had a caption, it would read "Mine!"  Laugh


 

Ward was quite a character with a very well developed sense of humor. Met him a few times while helping out with the finishing of the Grizzly Flats Enginehouse at OERM - don't think he was quite sure of what to make of me at first - he loosened up a bit after seeing me pantomining painting the top of Fred Nicas's head, proving that I had at least a few screws loose...

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Posted by BigJim on Monday, January 08, 2018 7:27 AM

Back to Gene Autry,
I understand that Gene tried to start a Tweetsie RR type attraction in the Penn Laird, Va. area. 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Monday, January 08, 2018 1:58 PM

Do not care for the man.  The way he treated the Japaneese -Americans  detainees and their property and took advantage of their being shipped off to the camps IMHO has no excuse.

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Posted by Sunnyland on Monday, January 08, 2018 7:13 PM

very cool, he started with Frisco as telegrapher, probably in OK. We saw a lot of his movies, and Dad had an article about him in their employee mag after he became famous.  That was quite a private RR, never knew about that. Knew Walt Disney was railfan too, but don't know the other man, Ward. 

 

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Posted by 54light15 on Tuesday, January 09, 2018 2:38 PM

Ward Kimball was one of Walt's animators. Know who else was an animator for Walt Disney? Walt Kelly who later drew the legendary comic strip, "Pogo." 

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Posted by Penny Trains on Tuesday, January 09, 2018 8:22 PM

Have I mentioned what my living room has looked like for the past 7 weeks?  Laugh

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Posted by radio ranch on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:36 AM

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Do not care for the man.  The way he treated the Japaneese -Americans  detainees and their property and took advantage of their being shipped off to the camps IMHO has no excuse.

 

Can you quote a source for your accusation?  Autry served as a pilot in the AAC during WW2 and had no control or connection with Japanese-American internments.  I tried researching for any reference to "how he treated detainees and their property and could find nothing.  Can you help shed further factual information that would validate you claim?

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:44 PM

Penny Trains
Have I mentioned what my living room has looked like for the past 7 weeks?

   Fantastic!   Did you start setting it up around July?

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Posted by Firelock76 on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:50 PM

Paul of Covington
 
Penny Trains
Have I mentioned what my living room has looked like for the past 7 weeks?

 

   Fantastic!   Did you start setting it up around July?

 

Paul, if you or anyone else wants to see more, slide on over to the "Classic Toy Trains" site and go to the Forum there.  Look for the thread titled "Christmas Layouts", scroll down the thread list and you'll find it, and prepare to be amazed.  Penny Trains' layouts are there and quite a few from some other folks.

Trust me, you won't be sorry you did!

Let me see if I can give everyone a hand here...

http://cs.trains.com/ctt/f/95/t/266182.aspx?

Hmm, won't light up.  Maybe someone can do the honors.

 

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Posted by kgbw49 on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 5:25 PM

Tried to light it up but also did not succeed.

But I did pop over to the magazine site, and "Forums" is under the "Community" Banner and was able to navigate.

Very cool stuff.

If Jesus would have been born in the 1870s it would have been in Winslow, AZ and the Three Wise Men would have come in to town on the Atlantic & Pacific....

 

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Posted by Penny Trains on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 7:24 PM

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