Flying Yankee restoration ‘back on track’

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, October 06, 2017 7:39 PM

There is no analogy between the Flying Yankee and anything involving steam engines with respect to PTC.  Any exemption in Part 230 applies only to steam.

There may be other exemptions but I suspect any mainline excursion ‘should’ still have PTC protections even if nominally exempted.  I expect insurance to become even more ridiculously overexpensive if at least some logical parts of PTC protection are not implemented.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Friday, October 06, 2017 8:27 PM

Good point. I imagine the Flying Yankee folks are treating PTC as a bridge they'll cross when they come to it.  A question, does the Illinois Railroad Museum's Burlington E5 have PTC?

It did run off-museum property a year or two ago.

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Posted by Buslist on Saturday, October 07, 2017 5:15 AM

Firelock76

Good point. A question, does the Illinois Railroad Museum's Burlington E5 have PTC?

It did run off-museum property a year or two ago.

 

No it does not and a member of the BOD told me there are no plans to equip it, but knowing their ability to scare up donations I wouldn’t be surprised if it got a set of on board equipment donated.

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Posted by desertdog on Saturday, October 21, 2017 2:13 PM

Back in the 50s someone gave me a Lionel Flying Yankee. I threw it in with the rest of my Lionel "stuff" when I sold everything for $50. One of many teenage regrets...

 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, October 21, 2017 2:51 PM

desertdog

Back in the 50s someone gave me a Lionel Flying Yankee. I threw it in with the rest of my Lionel "stuff" when I sold everything for $50. One of many teenage regrets...

 

John Timm

 

Check the "Resources" tab on the top of the website, select "Coming Events," and follow the prompts to look for "Train Shows."  There's Lionel "Flying Yankees" out there, I see them every once in a while at said shows.  Keep your fingers crossed and you just might find yourself another one!

I don't know the mind-set of all on this Forum, but if any of you haven't been to a train show you should go!  They're a lot of fun, and who knows what you'll find? 

Toy trains of all kinds, trains for the serious modeler, books, videos, railroadiana, precision tools, quite a few things to see.  Plus some fun "B-S'n" with other railfans if you make the connection.

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Posted by Shadow the Cats owner on Saturday, October 21, 2017 6:21 PM

I checked the Bay site several Lionel and MTH including new in box prewar setups price for those was over 1700 bucks MTH new in box was under 400 so you have your choice.

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, October 21, 2017 7:31 PM

Shadow the Cats owner
I checked the Bay site several Lionel and MTH including new in box prewar setups price for those was over 1700 bucks MTH new in box was under 400 so you have your choice.

Not as bad as that: remember that Mr. Timm's example was USED when it was given to him, so you should compare it with the other unrestored sets on eBay, many of which are in the $345 to $400 range.

I suspect his wistfulness is not at all in wishing he had the Lionel version back 'to keep'; it's much more wishing he had it back so he could realize more than $50 (even adjusted for inflation?) by selling it now.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, October 21, 2017 7:37 PM

Now , now, you don't know that for certain.  All of us have things in our past we got rid of and years later were sorry we did.  Maybe it's for monetary reasons but mostly it's nostalgia, sometimes for that "Best Christmas ever!"  Sometimes just for the memories. 

I've got a Lionel 2018 I bought just for that reason.  My original I gave to my then ten year old nephew because it seemed the right thing to do.  Then after a year I started missing it, go I bought a substitute. I'm not sorry I gave it to him though, you should have seen his face light up when I did!

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Posted by desertdog on Thursday, November 02, 2017 12:41 PM

Overmod

 

 
Shadow the Cats owner
I checked the Bay site several Lionel and MTH including new in box prewar setups price for those was over 1700 bucks MTH new in box was under 400 so you have your choice.

 

Not as bad as that: remember that Mr. Timm's example was USED when it was given to him, so you should compare it with the other unrestored sets on eBay, many of which are in the $345 to $400 range.

I suspect his wistfulness is not at all in wishing he had the Lionel version back 'to keep'; it's much more wishing he had it back so he could realize more than $50 (even adjusted for inflation?) by selling it now.

 

The money would be nice, but the truth be told, I wish I had not only the Flying Yankee but the GP-7 (it was really a GP-9, was it not?) and the diesel switcher my brother custom painted for me and the Rutland box car and the #1666 steamer and all the oddball stuff like a Thomas log car, and...

 

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Posted by Overmod on Thursday, November 02, 2017 1:21 PM

desertdog
the truth be told, I wish I had not only the Flying Yankee but the GP-7 (it was really a GP-9, was it not?) and the diesel switcher my brother custom painted for me and the Rutland box car and the #1666 steamer and all the oddball stuff like a Thomas log car, and...

I stand corrected.

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