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CN 1392 on the move

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CN 1392 on the move
Posted by SD70M-2Dude on Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:55 AM

The Alberta Railway Museum's ex-CN Ten-Wheeler is being moved by truck from northeast Edmonton to Stettler, AB to run some trips on the Alberta Prairie Railway, including a few doubleheaders with AP 2-8-0 #41:

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/alberta-railway-museum-train-coming-out-of-retirement-for-canada-150

Prepping 1392 for this year's operating season:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u01dqy0R0dY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG54a-N-OXo

 

Greetings from Alberta

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Posted by Firelock76 on Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:53 PM

To cool for words!  Thanks for posting!  Looks like in Canada steam rules, in addition to Her Majesty.

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Posted by NDG on Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:23 PM

 

FWIW.
 
I Liked CNR ten wheelers!! Most were so old they came from everywhere pre-CNR!  and they were everywhere, coal and oil.
 
 
CN seemed to like Mr. RME's Universal Valve Chest, too!
 
Wonder if many were Compound pre Superheating era??
 
A small steam locomotive is Ideal to play with, and to illustrate 'Steam' to patrons.
 
Less complex, less fuel and water, better visibility re Safety First. components a lot lighter, easier on track, etc.
 

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Posted by Miningman on Friday, June 23, 2017 12:15 AM

Gotta like that comment on the video " two ugly diesels were added as dead weight and dragged around in order to give her a workout". 

Yeah, thats about right.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, June 23, 2017 6:49 AM

Miningman

Gotta like that comment on the video " two ugly diesels were added as dead weight and dragged around in order to give her a workout". 

Yeah, thats about right.

 
I've never seen an ugly diesel.  On the other hand, D&H 1402 is ugly.
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Posted by Miningman on Friday, June 23, 2017 8:40 AM

Even a lowly, common, diminutive and ancient ten wheeler is forever ahead of any straight hunk of metal boxing in a stinky Diesel engine. 

As an added attraction there is the sights, sounds and aroma's of coal smoke, valve oil and steam, the craftsmanship and individuality of construction, the external combustion and movements of rods and their connections and the sheer power on display vs. the charm of a lawnmower, even if it has a fancy smancy paint job.

A person can walk into the gates of hell with their eyes wide open but even the devil can't fool a steam lover. 

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Posted by NDG on Friday, June 23, 2017 1:14 PM

 

OT??

Another Alberta steam locomotive on the move.

 
 
Headed CPR's Official 'Last Steam Run',  November 1960. Other engines worked into 1961.
 
 
About a year earlier similar CP 144 heads an 'All Wood' passenger consist at Montreal West.
 
 
Was burned in a shop fire.
 
 
Then, sent to Calgary.
 

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Posted by SD70M-2Dude on Friday, June 23, 2017 2:14 PM

I forgot to add this link to the original post, 1392 made the 6:00 CTV news:

http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1152007#1152007

And thank YOU for the CPR locomotive links NDG, not off topic at all!

1392 was orignally a Canadian Northern engine of the same number, and would have been painted similar to this 2-8-0 when she left the factory:

http://silverhawkauthor.com/images/site_graphics/Trains/e010861781-v8.jpg

Greetings from Alberta

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Posted by NDG on Friday, June 23, 2017 2:33 PM

 

And it was all done, before. 10 Miles and 6%.
 
 
 
The tender air brakes were used to hold it on the grade.
 
 
Hmmm.
 
 

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Posted by NDG on Friday, June 23, 2017 3:43 PM

SD70M-2Dude

1392 was orignally a Canadian Northern engine of the same number, and would have been painted similar to this 2-8-0 when she left the factory:

http://silverhawkauthor.com/images/site_graphics/Trains/e010861781-v8.jpg

 

 

Altho' NOT in the photo, I was on hand for last revenue run CN Electrics ex Montreal in 1995, and traveled thru behind steam on Canadian Northern rails after hand-off from electrics, back in Forties. Two Pacifics.
 
 
Long time ago.
 
OT.
 
Canadian National-style number plates are quite collectible and came in many forms and alloys and number style.
 
GTW and DW&P had them, also.
 
 
Diesels acquired them.
 
 
CLC/Whitcomb. Some went to Rock Island, W&OD. Number plate on nose above crest.
 
 
Anyway, the plate style is from CANADIAN NORTHERN pattern and, later, the word ' National ' substituted
 
Some CanNor plates from older locomotives were modified by cutting off Northern and braising on National, often of different alloy and seam very visible on back of plate.
 
Have seen a few.
 
Sometimes when an engine was renumbered, esp when the Diesels came, numerals cut out and new ones braised in.
 
Several hundred CN Number plates exist.
 
BUT!!! Does anyone know if a TRUE Canadian NORTHERN plate is extant??
 
BTW. Canora = Canadian Northern Railway.
 
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Posted by SD70M-2Dude on Saturday, July 01, 2017 11:09 PM

Some updates, after loading was completed 1392's truck ride went off without a hitch and She has been running on the Alberta Prairie Railway between Stettler and Big Valley for the past few days.  Many doubleheaded runs with AP #41.  Some more video of the move:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITI8LKtu_hI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp_Nq-Zo76g

And photos & video of ops on the Alberta Prairie, the two engines switch positions depending on the trip:

http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=29958

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/621511/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh1g9ewPBJY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v6KigxMb0I

And many neat photos have been posted to the Alberta Railway Museum's news page, scroll down some to get to them and click to make any one larger (CN 6060 has even been spotted outside her shop for photos):

http://www.albertarailwaymuseum.com/latest-news

This is the first time I've been around doubleheaded steam locomotives, and it is really neat to see the two crews working together to run the train.

And NDG I did look at 1392's actual brass number plate, there is no seam so it probably isn't the original Canadian Northern one.  I'm not surprised at that, she was in several accidents while still in service and the number plate could easily have been damaged enough that it had to be replaced. 

Also of note here, the plate 1392 currently wears is an aluminium reproduction painted in brass & red.  The brass original is kept under lock and key back at the Museum.  Unfortunately as we all know locomotive number plates are quite valuble and they have a tendency to grow legs and "walk" away in the night.

We have about five more aluminium ones waiting in line for just such an occasion.

Greetings from Alberta

-an Articulate Malcontent

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Posted by NDG on Sunday, July 02, 2017 3:04 AM

 

 

Re. CNor CN number plates.
 
Here are two from eBay which have had the word ' Northern ' removed and ' National ' inserted.
 
These are nicer conversions that the ones I saw in reality.
 
CN 2486 Front.
 
 
 
CN 2486 Rear.
 
 
CN 2498 Front.
 
 
CN 2498 Rear.
 
 
 
 
There used to be a great CNR Presence in Edmonton with lots of members who would have data on CNor and CNR.
 
The number plates came in many alloys and fonts. A history in itself.
 
There was an article in CN SIG?? magazine about twenty years ago?? re number plates.Ask around Edmonton.
 

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