How long has this bridge been out of service and why are people still walking on it with missing ties?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH3EL8mUQ4g
That's a 'Rail to trail" hiking trail (the bridge isn't exactly bike-friendly, but it is walkable.) I strolled a different one in SW Indiana some years ago - had a tunnel as well as a tall bridge with an 'improved' surface suitable for biking. I expect that the bridge will be given a smooth surface and guardrails when (anf if) money becomes available for improvements.
I wonder how successful the murderer would have been if the two young ladies had both been packing serious heat. Unfortunately, they weren't.
Chuck [MSgt(ret) USAF]
tomikawaTT That's a 'Rail to trail" hiking trail (the bridge isn't exactly bike-friendly, but it is walkable.) I strolled a different one in SW Indiana some years ago - had a tunnel as well as a tall bridge with an 'improved' surface suitable for biking. I expect that the bridge will be given a smooth surface and guardrails when (anf if) money becomes available for improvements. I wonder how successful the murderer would have been if the two young ladies had both been packing serious heat. Unfortunately, they weren't. Chuck [MSgt(ret) USAF]
The Deer Creek Bridge was at Monon MP B-113.0 according to the track chart. The ties are not missing, it's a typical timber tie open deck bridge. The rail and inside steel guardrails have been removed.
CSX filed to abandon in 1992, Frankfort (137.5) to Delphi (112.22), trail agency Indiana Landmarks (and its predecessors) have been dragging their feet with CSX for 35 years to acquire the R/W and gain NITU/CITU status. Close, but it hasn't happened yet. The county has been advertising the thing as a legitimate rail trail (not yet). STB just extended the current negotiating period from April 24/May 2 until October 28 of this year. Unfortunately the two girls were technically trespassing (as was the scumbag) on railroad property. The county is totally negligent in advertising this as a rail-trail. (Would love to know what "uncontrollable circumstance(s)" kept the county from executing a bargain and sale deed with CSX on February 24 and transferring the property. Sounds like more trail group incompetence/ recklessness.)
https://www.stb.gov/Decisions/readingroom.nsf/WEBUNID/D9F80ABCF28160C485258113004D613F?OpenDocument
http://www.carrollcountyindiana.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=273&Itemid=154
Stoopid newsworkers missed the big, contributing part of the story once more.
This rivals the stupidity of the Midnight Rider bridge fiasco (at least that JackAss went to jail for his criminal stupidity.)
SAD, all the way around
tomikawaTT I wonder how successful the murderer would have been if the two young ladies had both been packing serious heat. Unfortunately, they weren't. Chuck [MSgt(ret) USAF]
mudchicken tomikawaTT That's a 'Rail to trail" hiking trail (the bridge isn't exactly bike-friendly, but it is walkable.) I strolled a different one in SW Indiana some years ago - had a tunnel as well as a tall bridge with an 'improved' surface suitable for biking. I expect that the bridge will be given a smooth surface and guardrails when (anf if) money becomes available for improvements. I wonder how successful the murderer would have been if the two young ladies had both been packing serious heat. Unfortunately, they weren't. Chuck [MSgt(ret) USAF] BALONEY! - It's not a rail trail. Anyone claiming it is really needs some time in jail or have his/her bank account emptied (for life). C&O sees the disconnect because of no pedestrian/bicycle improvements on the bridge like solid decking and handrails. The Deer Creek Bridge was at Monon MP B-113.0 according to the track chart. CSX filed to abandon in 1992, Frankfort (137.5) to Delphi (112.22), trail agency Indiana Landmarks (and its predecessors) have been dragging their feet with CSX for 35 years to acquire the R/W and gain NITU/CITU status. Close, but it hasn't happened yet. The county has been advertising the thing as a legitimate rail trail (not yet). STB just extended the current negotiating period from April 24/May 2 until October 28 of this year. Unfortunately the two girls were technically trespassing (as was the scumbag) on railroad property. The county is totally negligent in advertising this as a rail-trail. (Would love to know what "uncontrollable circumstance(s)" kept the county from executing a bargain and sale deed with CSX on February 24 and transferring the property. Sounds like more trail group incompetence/ recklessness.) https://www.stb.gov/Decisions/readingroom.nsf/WEBUNID/D9F80ABCF28160C485258113004D613F?OpenDocument http://www.carrollcountyindiana.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=273&Itemid=154 Stoopid newsworkers missed the big, contributing part of the story once more. This rivals the stupidity of the Midnight Rider bridge fiasco (at least that JackAss went to jail for his criminal stupidity.) SAD, all the way around
BALONEY! - It's not a rail trail. Anyone claiming it is really needs some time in jail or have his/her bank account emptied (for life). C&O sees the disconnect because of no pedestrian/bicycle improvements on the bridge like solid decking and handrails.
The Deer Creek Bridge was at Monon MP B-113.0 according to the track chart.
WAG: There's $eriou$ money involved and the locals don't have it. To get the R/W as a CITU/NITU rail-trail still requires the trail entity to pay salvage value for the line (normally far less than current market value of the surrounding real estate). Many trail groups try to pull a stupid stunt during negotiations by leaving the negotiations open or attempting to wear the railroads down (doesn't happen) to the point the railroads forget about the line so they can adversely claim the line as theirs and not pay a dime for it. (witless trail advocate fanatical dumb thinking)
The kicker is that a rail-trail is still a railroad corridor first and the trail comes in a poor second (has to go away if the railroad ever needs to come back)...
There are a number of high bridges on the EX- Western Maryland in Allegany County MD and they were fenced off by CSX and the C&O Canal National Park Service to prevent people from falling through. The problem is ownership and the State of Indiana has not been too freindly with the Rails to Trails as there policy had been that abandoned ROWS should revert to private farmers along the way. See what happened to the Ol Erie Mainline and the Wabash mainlines.
I've walked across the Delphi bridge several times. Pretty cool view from the middle.
Steve
CandOforprogress2 There are a number of high bridges on the EX- Western Maryland in Allegany County MD and they were fenced off by CSX and the C&O Canal National Park Service to prevent people from falling through. The problem is ownership and the State of Indiana has not been too freindly with the Rails to Trails as there policy had been that abandoned ROWS should revert to private farmers along the way. See what happened to the Ol Erie Mainline and the Wabash mainlines.
It's also because they bought the Spencerville & Elgin (now RJC Western Ohio Lines) that came with baggage in Jay and Adams Counties combined with the collapse of Indiana Hi-Rail St. Mary's Line.
(at least they are responsible owners, unlike the disgusting "take the money and run" outfit in Utah)
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